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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2023, 11:48:56 PM »

Quite hard to go on when everyone else is panicking and getting out...

In ten innings he was 4th, 1st, 4th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st and 4th out - maybe he was contributing to  the panic?
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2023, 08:59:31 AM »

In ten innings he was 4th, 1st, 4th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st and 4th out - maybe he was contributing to  the panic?

I think I'd expect the experienced test cricketers to set the tone for the man with one test cap, not the other way round.
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2023, 10:55:04 PM »

What might he have been had he had the chance to bed in in a couple of series against the likes of Bangla, Sri Lanka, a weak Windies or an underperforming NZ - who knows, that's the beauty of this thread.

One may feel we never saw the best of Malan, Roland-Jones, Jennings, Crane, Carberry, etc through the vagaries of selection or talent.
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2023, 11:11:48 PM »

And here's a few chaps to consider -

Anthony McGrath
James Tredwell
Nick Compton
James Taylor* (bit unfair)
Ajmal Shazad
Min Patel
Liam Dawson
Martin Bicknell
Darren Maddy

should any of these played more - or was it a mercy-killing?
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2023, 01:27:30 AM »

I think I'd expect the experienced test cricketers to set the tone for the man with one test cap, not the other way round.

Brilliant! If you're (apparently) that good, why does it matter what anyone else does? You're either good enough, or you aren't. Cook, Prior, Trott, et al seem to have managed at the start of their career
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2023, 07:51:19 AM »

I have my doubts that Carberry would have been a top class test opener but I feel he deserved another series to prove it. He was one of the better post cook/strauss openers - considering who he was playing against. 'Older' players get let go too early, after getting picked late, as people are always looking for the next big thing. I dont really disagree here as I would be looking for the next great too, but if there is obviously no-one of that class then there is no reason you cant get 3-5 years out of a fit 32 year old.

I know he is younger but suspect Sam Hain may go the route of this thread. I am sure he will get some tests at some point but unless he hits the runs early he will be 30 and selectors will be looking 'for the future'
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Re: Careers Cut Short Before Their Prime?
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2023, 09:05:46 AM »

And here's a few chaps to consider -

Anthony McGrath
James Tredwell
Nick Compton
James Taylor* (bit unfair)
Ajmal Shazad
Min Patel
Liam Dawson
Martin Bicknell
Darren Maddy

should any of these played more - or was it a mercy-killing?

I suspect Dawson will get five more tests very soon when we tour India.

Rest of your list...unconvinced.  McGrath could have played more ODIs maybe, Bicknell might have got a few games as a horses/courses selection.
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