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Eng vs WI Test Series
« on: August 08, 2017, 07:58:22 AM »

With this starting next week thought we'd open a new thread.

Think anyone will get rested? Would be good to see Woakes get some cricket. Looking forward to the day night test.

WI look to have really struggled against a weakened Kent side. Weather permitting think England should win this 3-0
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2017, 08:01:27 AM »

This 'rest' stuff that people keep going on about is absolute drivel

Don't see the team changing besides an opener, get the impression Ballance and Woakes aren't fit for Edgbaston.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 08:02:43 AM »

I know it's been discussed tot he ends of time and back but I think we should go in with:

Cook
Stoneman
Westley
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Roland-jones or woakes
Broad
Anderson

If we are 2-0 up rest one of broad or jimmy for woakes if fit and play both woakes and trj
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 08:12:05 AM »

I read this morning that Jennings will be given another go?! No Hales due to wanting to be in the middle order, and no Hameed as they don't want him to fail... Really?

Also Crane is training with them, taking a look apparently...
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 08:15:58 AM »

Also Crane is training with them, taking a look apparently...

Unless they rest Ali i cant see a pitch that two spinners would immediately call for. That being said they may need two spinners for Sydney at the very least so makes sense to have a look now rather than throw him in in that game
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 08:34:46 AM »

Established players apart if any of the English guys  fail against the Windies  test side no way should they be considered  for Oz.   Also not convinced it tells you much   if they score big hundreds and take wickets.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 08:44:02 AM »

Gut feeling England will give Jennings another go.....they seem to think he has the temperament for test cricket but with some technical faults. He is getting out the same way which to me is not as bad as getting out different ways if you see what I mean.

If he is to stay in they could do a lot worse than so,e time spent with trescothick before the series, they have similar styles and I don't see why England coaching cannot go outside the norm for advice.

Hameed they clearly think is a diamond long term and they may well be right.

Tricky selection now as time has been invested in Jennings, stoneman  clearly a good player but he's not outstanding.
He may deserve a go but if Hameed and Jennings being younger are better long term bets do they invest more in those?

Hard call I think to make.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 09:12:06 AM »

I think they will pretty much stay the same. Probably try to get Wood in for a game to keep him in the loop. I'm not sure why anyone would need a rest unless they had a niggle. There are 2 months between the final day of the test and the first warm up game in Oz.

Hameed is meant to be suspect against the short ball so maybe missing this winter (or travelling as a spare) would give him more time to sort out a game plan against it without destroying his confidence at the highest level.

I'd go with, when fit:

Cook
Jennings
Westley
Root
Hales
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes/Wood/Roland-Jones
Broad
Anderson

Hales has proven he can stick around when it is tough, he just isn't quite good enough to do it first up, but also he can smash it when it isn't tough. Isn't he a better version of Malan?
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2017, 09:36:50 AM »

For the final test or two  ecb should pick the side they want to play in oz. For me that should be :
cook
hameed
root
westley
hales
stokes
bairstow
ali
woakes
roland jones
broad

if you play jennings in oz he will get destroyed. same for ballance and a few other fringe players.
 
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 09:46:09 AM »

For the final test or two  ecb should pick the side they want to play in oz. For me that should be :
cook
hameed
root
westley
hales
stokes
bairstow
ali
woakes
roland jones
broad

if you play jennings in oz he will get destroyed. same for ballance and a few other fringe players.

Would you really leave Jimmy A out if he's fit?
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 09:48:40 AM »

Give Hameed some time or you'll destroy him.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2017, 10:06:28 AM »

There is not another round of championship games until the end of August. This really does not help!
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2017, 06:32:18 PM »

For me, Jennings has some serious technical issues to sort out - get him out and get him worked on!
Hameed needs to get some more experience and really toughen up - the Aussies will chew him up and give him serious stick! He needs time!!

I say get Stoneman in. I realise one or two people have said that the Windies haven't got the same bowling attack as the Aussies, but you can watch a batsman and tell if he has a decent technique or not! If they can't look at a batsman and tell what needs working on within 10 minutes, then they shouldn't be anywhere near the England Coaching Team!! I would look at......

Cook
Stoneman
Westley
Root
Hales
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

If anyone has a niggle or needs a rest then bring someone else in! The thought of Hales on decent form slotting in at 5 is a little exciting with Stokes, Bairstow and Ali to follow!!  :o

Thinking ahead to Winter, I would also take Hameed, Ballance, Robson, TRJ, Ball, Woods, Crane, Buttler. Unsure how many squad players we normally take to the Ashes?

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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2017, 06:44:24 PM »

I agree with Pete,I say bring Hales in at 5 for Malan.Malan had been picked on his one day form,in that case,surely it has to be Hales. Hales has had a taste of test cricket,a tough one opening the batting.You would like to think he has reflected on it and improved the areas that needed improving ie. outside off stump. Westley has an area of concern,but he too has recognised this and is working hard to improve it.I hope one of the 3 tests is a Bunsen as they will take a third spinner to aus- I would like to see Crane given a go,and the fact we bat so deep means we should give him a go,as an out and out spinner not a bits and pieces like Dawson.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2017, 07:02:07 PM »

For all those thinking about team selection. Would you give a debut to someone at a day night game when the ball will hoop round corners

Having said that, personally I would be tempted with
Stoneman at 2, Hales at 3 then westley at 5. Plus the rest. Woakes wont be picked until the third test to build up fitness in county cricket.
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