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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #810 on: November 13, 2017, 08:33:14 AM »

Awaiting an announcement to see if petes witchcraft waterworks prediction comes true

For those not old enough perhaps a nod to the past when we had Botham at his peak-and how important Stokes is to the side

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #811 on: November 13, 2017, 02:50:23 PM »

I can't proclaim to know anything for certain, but I got a message late Saturday night from someone close to Durham CCC saying he is waiting to fly out this week. Could well be rubbish as I said but I really hope not.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #812 on: November 13, 2017, 03:46:46 PM »

Any investigation can only go on for so long before a decision has to be made in Stokes s case  maybe  the length of time it  has gone on  already the more  unlikely  it is there's a case  to answer.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #813 on: November 14, 2017, 04:41:23 AM »

Having just watched Cameron Bancroft reach 228no at lunch 2nd day vs s.a i reckon the oz selectors need to find a spot for him in the test side . He has also come off 78no and 80 odd vs nsw (full test bowling attack) and 206no at the end of the county season too . He looked the best young opener in oz for a couple years but went a bit quiet and others rose above him in the pecking order , but he has not only regained consistent form, but he has added greater scoring proficiency to his excellent physical and mental stamina/ability to bat long periods .
Whether he ousts Wade/Nevill/Carey for the gloveman role , ousts Maxwell/Cartwright/Lehmann/Marsh for the no6 role , or ousts Renshaw for an opening spot (my preferred option) is up to the selectors .... but he has knocked the door down and demands a spot .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #814 on: November 14, 2017, 05:51:17 AM »

Having just watched Cameron Bancroft reach 228no at lunch 2nd day vs s.a i reckon the oz selectors need to find a spot for him in the test side . He has also come off 78no and 80 odd vs nsw (full test bowling attack) and 206no at the end of the county season too . He looked the best young opener in oz for a couple years but went a bit quiet and others rose above him in the pecking order , but he has not only regained consistent form, but he has added greater scoring proficiency to his excellent physical and mental stamina/ability to bat long periods .
Whether he ousts Wade/Nevill/Carey for the gloveman role , ousts Maxwell/Cartwright/Lehmann/Marsh for the no6 role , or ousts Renshaw for an opening spot (my preferred option) is up to the selectors .... but he has knocked the door down and demands a spot .

I think Renshaw has done a decent job opening up in some tough conditions to start your career, India away against spin must have been pretty alien. Surely either of those other two roles you mention is where Bancroft gets into the side, no one has nailed down the 6 or 7 role for Aus despite plenty of chances.

But who am I to tell you how to pick your team. Id drop Starc and Cummins for Bollinger and Hilfenhaus aswell and get Lyon out for Jason Krezja. Thats what we need - an english mole on the Aussie selection committee!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #815 on: November 14, 2017, 09:09:04 AM »

I think Renshaw has done a decent job opening up in some tough conditions to start your career, India away against spin must have been pretty alien. Surely either of those other two roles you mention is where Bancroft gets into the side, no one has nailed down the 6 or 7 role for Aus despite plenty of chances.

But who am I to tell you how to pick your team. Id drop Starc and Cummins for Bollinger and Hilfenhaus aswell and get Lyon out for Jason Krezja. Thats what we need - an english mole on the Aussie selection committee!

I agree I think Renshaw has done a good job and compliments Warner at the top of order well.

Is Bancroft a genuine wicket keeper or is he more in the Dravid mould of keepers?

If a proper keeper surely he's got to come to instead of Wade and Nevill who aren't in great form.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #816 on: November 14, 2017, 09:43:10 AM »

Bancroft has hardly ever kept in 1st class, he might bat 6, but hell never keep.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #817 on: November 14, 2017, 10:54:08 AM »

I like Renshaw , he's done a decent job at the start of his test career , but he is not in form . Bancroft needs to come into the side somewhere .....Bancroft , Maxwell , Nevill looks better atm then Renshaw , Bancroft , Nevill , or Renshaw , Maxwell , Nevill , in the 3 available positions.
Sometimes you have to make tough calls....and Renshaw will be back , he is only 21 afterall .
But id be pretty happy with Bancroft keeping and Renshaw staying in the side , but Bancroft keeping is quite unlikely .... but if its the only way the selectors are willing to pick him , then so be it .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #818 on: November 14, 2017, 11:28:08 AM »

Bancroft has hardly ever kept in 1st class, he might bat 6, but hell never keep.

so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #819 on: November 14, 2017, 12:08:58 PM »

so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?
Think the same would apply for Handscomb.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #820 on: November 14, 2017, 12:10:00 PM »

so play him as a batsmen and let handscomb keep, or is that not an option?

Isn't Hanscomb a part time keeper too?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #821 on: November 14, 2017, 12:30:05 PM »

Haha.
Maybe we pick bancroft as opener, and a specialist batsman (or allrounder) at 7 , and Bancroft and Handscomb can share the keeping duties . Maybe wear one glove and pad each ?  ;) :D :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #822 on: November 14, 2017, 12:48:10 PM »

Handscomb is a smoggie so having been brought up under a toxic cloud from ICI Wilton, his webbed 6 digit hands would need custom gloves.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #823 on: November 14, 2017, 01:26:08 PM »

The Handscomb keeping thing is what i always didn't get as it completely solves the Aussies - 'can't find a genuine allrounder' issue.

I think i am right in saying he kept for Yorkshire during the summer?

In Australia he is going to be standing back with consistent bounce at least 85% of the time i reckon - it's not like keeping in India etc... where Aus have just come from.

If Handscomb kept it completely changes Australia's selection - no. 6 can be a complete batter and you can select another bowler or even that allrounder at no.7
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #824 on: November 14, 2017, 01:53:30 PM »

As an Englishman I much prefer the look of the side with Wade in it...  ;)
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