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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2021, 09:42:04 AM »

The 1/2 inch shorter blade longer handle AM18 I make makes up about 40% of this years sales but is by far the bat that gets the most positive feedback in terms of its pick up and allows for slightly bigger profiles than the SL06 traditional SH shape.

Personally used this set up for about the last 6 years now and just find it suits my game perfectly.
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2021, 01:46:54 PM »

Pickup has to get slightly worse, you're moving the same amount of mass further away from your hands. I've always assumed people who think a short blade picks up better must just be holding the handle right at the bottom.

In practice the blade length isn't the only thing that changes though, a batmaker will still balance the bat to how they like it. I'd just use the same weight, the difference will be marginal at best and pickup depends more on the individual bat and where you hold it than it does on how long the blade is.

I guess Ill have to agree to disagree with your views on this mr edge,,

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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2021, 02:48:10 PM »

Personally i don't think the difference in pick up is huge, but others have said they feel it improves.

As always, I suppose it all depends on how a bat is balanced, the profile, handle thickness etc. I like it as a set up, but I'm not massively fussy on blade size etc when batting. If it feels right and suits my eye, I'll use it.

@Jimbo sent his back for a refurb recently and forgot how good it felt. I was tempted to keep it! 😆
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2021, 02:53:21 PM »

Long as you're happy to make up a copy that hits a ball as well @jonny77 😂
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2021, 04:41:09 PM »

As well or as well?

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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2021, 09:14:27 PM »

Pickup has to get slightly worse, you're moving the same amount of mass further away from your hands. I've always assumed people who think a short blade picks up better must just be holding the handle right at the bottom.

In practice the blade length isn't the only thing that changes though, a batmaker will still balance the bat to how they like it. I'd just use the same weight, the difference will be marginal at best and pickup depends more on the individual bat and where you hold it than it does on how long the blade is.

Pick up is a simple matter of physics.  As you say, pick.up has to get worse with a shorter blade as you are taking weight from close to the pivot point and moving it further away.  The only way pick up improves is if you start moving weight higher up the blade to compensate
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2021, 09:36:41 AM »

The only way pick up improves is if you start moving weight higher up the blade to compensate

Or by reducing the length and weight of the blade.
Making a longer handle and reducing the blade = net weight loss = lighter pickup.
If you take it to the extreme, a bat that was standard length but 90% handle and 10% blade, would pick up incredibly light!
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2021, 10:43:42 AM »

Or by reducing the length and weight of the blade.
Making a longer handle and reducing the blade = net weight loss = lighter pickup.
If you take it to the extreme, a bat that was standard length but 90% handle and 10% blade, would pick up incredibly light!

It wouldnt be if it weighed 28 though, it would pick up appallingly.
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2021, 06:18:32 PM »

Or by reducing the length and weight of the blade.
Making a longer handle and reducing the blade = net weight loss = lighter pickup.
If you take it to the extreme, a bat that was standard length but 90% handle and 10% blade, would pick up incredibly light!

If you have lower weight, we know it will always tend to pickup better irrespective of whether you go for regular SH or shorter blade. But with shorter blade, the improved pickup at lower weight can be negated by the loss of pickup due to holding higher up the handle, so overall pickup improvement is questionable/depends on the amount of weight reduction achieved. If short blade bat works for one, good, but to claim that shorter blade bat has better pickup isn't true.





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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2021, 07:08:32 PM »

Or by reducing the length and weight of the blade.
Making a longer handle and reducing the blade = net weight loss = lighter pickup.
If you take it to the extreme, a bat that was standard length but 90% handle and 10% blade, would pick up incredibly light!

Agreed on reducing the weight but the issue was whether you could go with a heavier bat if you go for a shorter blade and longer handle.

A 90% handle 10% bat set up wouldn't have incredible pick up though, it would just be very light in weight

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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2021, 08:33:32 PM »

I find they pick-up really well. Shouldn't that be the only reason people choose to use them?
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2021, 02:39:04 PM »

I've recently reverted to using a short blade bat I had made up back in 2014 and can't look back from it - likely to end up being my match bat come April 14th.

The design itself is slightly different to usual as rather than being a shorter blade/longer handle, the shoulders are simply sloped down (similar to the Newbery Excalibur - effectively just involves taking a standard SH bat and dropping the shoulders either side). Pick up wise the handle and splice have been kept pretty thick so it actually picks up well for what should be a bottom heavy bat. It's probably around 1.5 inches shorter in the shoulders but obviously the same length overall as any SH. The main advantage is it weighs 2.8 and the edges are just under 40mm with the spine touching 65/70mm :D .

I should add I'm 6ft 3", so the shorter blade/t20 style bat not being suitable for taller players is a myth in my opinion!
Is this still valid after 3 1/2 years?
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2021, 03:02:34 PM »

I wouldnt overthink it. Get the same weight and shape you normally use, and enjoy the faster bat speed!
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2021, 03:48:59 PM »

Height has nothing to do with it since the overall bat length is the same. All about the pick-up!
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Re: Shorter blade T20 style bats
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2021, 03:52:11 PM »

Im a bit less scientifical. A bat either picks up well or not.

For me, it lets me get a big bat in a little bit less weight and the majority of the time, thicker shoulders which (in my head or not) helps me manoeuvre the ball better when glancing on the back foot.

Go custom, support a batmaker on here and have a play.
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