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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2017, 03:15:22 PM »

The actual thickness of edge tape and scuff sheet is negligible; if you were to measure it with callipers I can't see it being over 0.1-0.3 mm maximum
If you had layered tape several times like Samit Patel has been seen to do then it may make more of an impact but I still can't see it making a major difference
The measurements of the GM Guage are exact to that of the new law, 40mm edge and 60mm spine allowing up to 67mm for a face camber
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2017, 03:20:08 PM »

This only applies in first class cricket right?

Can see some umpires trying it on below that so will be some fun discussions
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2017, 03:31:15 PM »

The actual thickness of edge tape and scuff sheet is negligible; if you were to measure it with callipers I can't see it being over 0.1-0.3 mm maximum
If you had layered tape several times like Samit Patel has been seen to do then it may make more of an impact but I still can't see it making a major difference
The measurements of the GM Guage are exact to that of the new law, 40mm edge and 60mm spine allowing up to 67mm for a face camber
Dorset's got a point - scuff plus tape on both sides could easily add up to 1mm+ across a bat, plus allow for manufacturing tolerances on the gauge. Then the fact that you don't want a 40mm/60mm gauge, you want a gauge that a 40mm/60mm bat will fit through, there must should be some allowance in the gauges. Looks like the sensible bat nerd will be in need of a decent set of verniers! ;)
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2017, 03:33:35 PM »

The actual thickness of edge tape and scuff sheet is negligible; if you were to measure it with callipers I can't see it being over 0.1-0.3 mm maximum
If you had layered tape several times like Samit Patel has been seen to do then it may make more of an impact but I still can't see it making a major difference
The measurements of the GM Guage are exact to that of the new law, 40mm edge and 60mm spine allowing up to 67mm for a face camber

[geek mode] +1.2mm where I have a fibreglass scuff, 1 layer fibre edge tape and 1 layer fibre tape across the toe meeting.[/geek mode]

This only applies in first class cricket right?

Can see some umpires trying it on below that so will be some fun discussions

Exactly.

Amateur level umpires trying it on is what made me think about the exact size of the gauge and how an extra layer of fun will be entered in to when a lightly taped toe doesn't pass through for width before you even manage to get to the meat of the edges or spine... alternatively if you are an even bigger bat nerd, how far can you push the limits of size with these gauges with a nude bat since size clearly equals performance ???
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2017, 03:35:58 PM »

Ive got a text from our secretary to say umpires are going on bat size regulations for 2018 and will be implementing new restrictions in our league
I asked him if he was joking and he said no absolutely not joking

I find this almost unbelievable
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 03:38:26 PM »

As it stands the ICC have left it down to individual national governing bodies to implement it into their amateur leagues. To my knowledge the ECB have not announced anything for 2018 so a league deciding to do it off their own back would surely need a majority vote from it's members (the clubs) at an AGM....

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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2017, 04:09:48 PM »

As it stands the ICC have left it down to individual national governing bodies to implement it into their amateur leagues. To my knowledge the ECB have not announced anything for 2018 so a league deciding to do it off their own back would surely need a majority vote from it's members (the clubs) at an AGM....

Does that explain your league move @Vitas Cricket  ;)
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2017, 04:14:40 PM »

Does that explain your league move @Vitas Cricket  ;)

Haha, if Yogi brings bat gauges into the Cambs league i'd be amazed.

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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2017, 08:07:24 PM »

If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one

Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2017, 08:20:50 PM »

If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one

Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level

Well said that man. I'm not a fan of huge edges myself and don't know the size of my current bat ,however it looks like it's coming in on our level.

Presumably the umps measures your bat and its 42mm whatever, tells you it cannot be used, your team mates won't lend you one so the umpire then gives you out as well.  :)


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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2017, 08:50:54 PM »

I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2017, 09:06:39 PM »

I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection
@JB get the sander out!!!!
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2017, 10:19:18 PM »

I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection

I don't think I own an "illegal" bat :-[
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2017, 08:39:19 AM »

I don't think I own an "illegal" bat :-[

Thats just boring Cam!!  :D
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Re: Have all the Brands met the new bat guidelines
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2017, 09:27:23 AM »

If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one

Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level

Exactly. It's ridiculous to expect amateur cricketers to go and buy a new bat. Shouldn't even be remotely considered below Prem Div level and even then it's still a daft idea. Hard enough for clubs to get 2nd and 3rd XI's playing but now you might have to convince people to go and spend a fortune on new kit as well. Good un.
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