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England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« on: January 07, 2018, 04:41:52 PM »

Does anyone fancy a stab at a 16 for New Zealand? I hope there will be a bit of blood-letting and a couple of changes. Heres my stab:

Cook
Stoneman
Lawrence
Root
Malan
Livingstone
Bairstow
Foakes
Anderson
Woakes
Overton
Roland-Jones
Wood
Plunkett
Leach
Crane
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 05:17:55 PM »

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Overton
Anderson

Ballance
Roland Jones
Crane
Foakes
Wood
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 05:18:53 PM »

 Laurence, living stone and Joe Clarke are the three who keep coming up as the next ones with potential. I'm going to back a hunch in my team and also presume Stokes will play on the tour.

Cook
Stoneman
Hameed
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
malan
Woakes
Crane
Anderson(if he is not rested)
Overton

TRJ could do the job of Broad I think so SB a bit lucky to get in the squad.

The rest of tour party
Broad
TRJ
Clarke
Plunkett
Another spinner...I'm not actually sure who - it's not Leach because his action is still under a cloud I believe.

Bairstow keeps at the moment as unsure over whether we now need Foakes in, wouldn't mind if he did come in to be honest because we need JB in the top 5 and scoring runs.eitherway Bairstow  at 5.

Crane is the main spinner we chuck him in regardless of conditions to find out if he can be in long term-so all eggs in one basket, if it happens to spin on day 4 or 5 root and Malan can bowl a few.

Hameed in with no real form behind him as a bit of a gamble he has the potential to be long term. I think Cook will play on for a while yet, but we will need a replacement at some point in the next 2-3 years I reckon.

Stoneman could drop to 3 and bat there and also open it doesn't really matter. Stoneman has not done great over five games, he has done enough and is a gutsy player- you need that in a test team Hameed has the potential like Stoneman to bat in tough conditions.

I think we need Hameed and Stoneman because we need to go backwards a bit a look for guys prepared to fight it out and work for runs....the test game has moved forward to faster scoring but there is still a place for these type of batsman. So, make the opposition get you out, there's shot players in the middle order.

So a bit of an old fashioned test squad from me  :)

Very interested to see others views thou.
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2018, 05:37:35 PM »

I really like the thinking behind ppccopener's side, mine would be fairly similar.

cook
stoneman
hameed (lawrence could also slot in nicely)
root
malan
stokes
bairstow
curran
crane
overton
anderson
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2018, 05:48:57 PM »

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Overton
Anderson

Ballance
Roland Jones
Crane
Foakes
Wood

This. Although I might like to see Leach involved.
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2018, 06:07:02 PM »

Cook
Stoneman
Northeast
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Overton (the fast one)
Anderson
Broad

Foakes
Woakes
Burns or Dan Laurence
Crane
TRJ
Curran T
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 06:35:22 PM »

This shall be my first England tour overseas. Quite looking forward to it.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 11:54:10 PM by rickjames »
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 07:15:04 PM »

Keep shouting out different names and hope some will come good eventually?
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 07:18:19 PM »

I hope they pick Dan Lawrence when he's properly ready, rather  than because they've run out of ideas.
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 07:31:05 PM »

I would like to see two players given an enforced break - Ali, who will get not help from the conditions, and Broad, who needs to rediscover some fire - both potentially have test futures, but picking them again sends the wrong message at this juncture.  I would also drop Vince, as he has shown that he is incapable of learning from his mistakes.

Assuming Stokes is fit and available, I would then use this as an opportunity to test out a couple of new faces in the following side:

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Livingstone
Foakes
Roland-Jones
Wood
Anderson

With Ballance (after all, it'd be harsh to pick him, not play him then drop him), Woakes, Garton and Crane as the remainder of a small touring party. 
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 07:54:11 PM »

Surely the very 1st question you ask is... is Stokes playing?!!!

Otherwise it's just square pegs in round holes again.
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2018, 08:12:26 PM »

Cook
Stoneman
Northeast
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Overton (the fast one)
Anderson
Broad

Foakes
Woakes
Burns or Dan Laurence
Crane
TRJ
Curran T

Glad Im not the only one who thinks Northeast deserves a shot
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2018, 10:19:02 PM »

Northeast definitely deserves a chance hes done everything he could to get into the team
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 06:25:30 AM »

I'm calling Northeast to announce a move to a div 1 county with the aim of improving his chances of England recognition, then getting a test call-up within two months.
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Re: England Red Ball Squad for New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 07:07:54 AM »

Give your boys as many chances as the Marsh brothers and they might come good... ;)
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