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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 07:31:23 PM »

Stoneman went past 1000 county runs today. Watch him be ignored.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2017, 07:34:05 PM »

What would you do with Jennings Buzz? Because he has been getting out the same way it should be easier to sort out the technical issues.

I'm not sure or not myself he is going to be long term myself, I do know he's clearly not rubbish and England like his attitude....and that's a big part of the game.

Most have him missing out for selection in the press..

And another thing  :).  Jennings and trescothick have similar techniques to my inexpert eye..I don't remember Marcus getting out half forward in the slips many times thru his career...and he def did not get his foot to the pitch of the ball...
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2017, 07:41:38 PM »

Graeme Smith did a good bit of analysis on Jennings. He has 2 issues.
1 his hands are tucked into his hips on his backlift and he need to push them back towards the keeper/slips.
A backlift should really be a back push, to free his hands and help them move better.

2. He is super stiff. Part if that for me is because he is sitting on his heals. Get up more on the balls of his feet amd flex those knees more to free himself up. I hate to say it, but he may need a trigger (argh).

Once he has those sorted he needs to work on head position and aligning his eyes better to the line of the ball.

Stoneman has better technique and is brilliant against the short ball, so should get a go in my view.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2017, 08:18:23 PM »

Hameed/stoneman should be given a go. I don't really mind which of the two it is but they can't select Jennings even in the innings where he got more than 15 he seemed to have a couple of lives early on.

Also thinking ahead to Australia will we need that extra batsman at 5? I feel like we will need a bit of X factor with the ball on flatter pitches, someone like wood or a leg spinners like crane/rashid fits the bill for me.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2017, 09:58:32 PM »


Thinking ahead to Winter, I would also take Hameed, Ballance, Robson, TRJ, Ball, Woods, Crane, Buttler. Unsure how many squad players we normally take to the Ashes?

Squad is traditionally 16, sometimes 17?
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 12:04:35 AM »

Would you really leave Jimmy A out if he's fit?



Yep.
Anderson has a meh record in oz and woakes offers a bit more pace , bounce , and he can make runs ( lower order runs will be vital ) . Put it this way , as an aussie , when the ecb pick anderson I'll be happy  .
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 12:10:39 AM »



Yep.
Anderson has a meh record in oz and woakes offers a bit more pace , bounce , and he can make runs ( lower order runs will be vital ) . Put it this way , as an aussie , when the ecb pick anderson I'll be happy  .


Perhaps you could pick Anderson for Adelaide /day-night test as an extra swing bowler , but thats as far as I'd go.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 09:10:04 AM »


Perhaps you could pick Anderson for Adelaide /day-night test as an extra swing bowler , but thats as far as I'd go.
England need  a fit and firing Jimmy in Oz  he has had success there also he will probably play the first WI test only
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2017, 09:13:28 AM »

Anyone else reckon when england bat first we shall see a 3 day test match.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2017, 11:45:28 AM »

We might do yes..I remember a 3 day game at edgebaston when the first ball of the match went miles over the keeper and it was over before lunch on day 3 I think

Worst thing England can do is be complacent...from what I can see at least 2 places in the team are up for grabs
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2017, 12:05:46 PM »

England need  a fit and firing Jimmy in Oz  he has had success there also he will probably play the first WI test only

He's hardly had success there has he?

He's taken 43 wickets at 38.44 which isnt great, and those figures are flattered by the series England won!

He did get a world record in Australia though, most runs conceded from 1 over in a Test...
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2017, 12:21:47 PM »

Who on the circuit has a good record in Australia besides them? I can't be bothered going through Cricinfo against the current top 10 test bowlers, looking at the list I suspect they'll all be around the mid-30s.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2017, 12:43:52 PM »

Stoneman went past 1000 county runs today. Watch him be ignored.

Lyth had 2 stellar seasons of run scoring behind him when he was picked for England.

I really don't see the point in more new caps. Tough on Stoneman perhaps, but I'm not confident he will staunch the bleeding.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2017, 12:57:00 PM »

We're still in the same position we were at the start of the season really - we know that Cook, Root, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali, Anderson and Broad are seven of our best side and suspect that Woakes is the eighth.  We know furthermore that we have decent reserves in the seam department - TRJ, Ball, Plunkett, Wood and a few untried names - and that we have two back up keepers who won't let us down in Buttler and Foakes.

What we don't have is three of a top five or reserve batsmen.  And of the four tried thus far only Wesley gives any real confidence in his future (though I thought Ballance was probably not as bad as most made out and still have some confidence in Malan).   As opener, whoever starts the West Indies series has to be given the Ashes as well, so now is probably the time to shed Jennings - preference would be to see how Stoneman does, but figure it'll probably be Hameed.  I'd like to see Hales given a go at five too.
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Re: Eng vs WI Test Series
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2017, 01:37:41 PM »

A lot of the press are tipping Hales to come back
Bayliss likes one day players in the team and he may have an influence.

It's a pointless argument but I can't help wondering if jos butler had been left in the side a year ago whether he would of done well....we are never going to know I don't think
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