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Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« on: November 02, 2013, 09:57:59 PM »

Hello chaps, bit of an essay, sorry! Forums are for letting off some steam though, and i thought a few of you would enjoy the read.

I have mentioned this subject in passing on the forum and had a chat with a few of you at our forum event about the situation at my cricket club. Now that everything has happened and been confirmed, i thought i would share my tale, and also invite a few extra follows on twitter :) - more details later.

So for the past 6 years, Robin (Vitas Crickets owner, and one of my closest friends) has been the chairman and first team captain of the club i play for, Castor & Ailsworth CC, i have been vice captain for the past 2 seasons. In recent years we have enjoyed a good amount of success. Winning the Cambs & Hunts Premier League Div 2 in 2011, a couple of Sunday league titles as well as finally winning a highly competitive week long sixes festival after being runners up 2 years in a row, all this culminated in us finishing 5th in Cambs & Hunts Premier League Div 1 (1 league below the East Anglian ECB Premier League which is an outrageous standard) this season.

During this time, the facilities at our little village club have gone donwhill somewhat, the wooden pavillion is on its last legs and the deck (a pudding at the best of times) was really poor this year. We finished bottom by a long way in the ranking table based on umpires marks for the ground/facilities, this score boosted by playing our last 2 home games at another club.

In previous years our poor wicket has played into our hands and has been our fortress. Our team has evolved to the extent that by August we had not won a home game, but were largely on fire away. Myself and Robin took the decision late in the season to experiment and try playing elsewhere. There is a fantastic sports club in a village about 8 miles down the road, Ketton Sports Association. Their cricket team only play on Sundays. They have a fantastic pavillion, sky sports, proper bar, the works. The deck is a road, great outfield, electric scoreboard, best tea in the area, basically cricket heaven. We know the guys there very well, so the 'hiring' of their ground was free, we only paid for the tea.

This went well, our second game there (also the final game of the year due to subsequent weather) saw us rack up 301-1 and bowl the oppo out for 100.

As far as we were concerned, we were playing our home games there next season, done deal. Unfortunately, many members of Castors committee strongly disagreed with this. The league panel had made noises about removing us from the league due to the state of our facilities if we continued to play there, they assumed we would play at Ketton based on the positive comments from opposition and umpires. Many members of the Castor committe were so against playing away for a year or two (we have a pavillion in the works, and sorting the deck will be costly but not impossible by any means) that they were of the view that we should pull out of the division we were in and drop down the leagues. We explained that Robin had no desire to rip up 6 years of hard work building his team to where we are today. We made it as clear as possible without actually saying 'if you vote no to this, we will leave the club and take our players with us.'

We were outvoted by a huge margin, and after some brief chats with Ketton about taking our players and forming a Saturday side under their banner, we resigned from Castor.

Our initial thought was to form a side and enter into the Hunts league (a feeder system to the Cambs & Hunts Prem) as high as we could, ideally Hunts 1 so we could be back in the league we won in 2011 within a season. The Hunts league committee told us Hunts 4 was the highest we could enter, so we looked elsewhere.

At this point, Robin rang the Chairman of the Cambs & Hunts Prem, Keith Coburn to confirm his resignation from Castor and essentially explain what had happened. All the signs pointed to Castor having to withdraw from the Cambs & Hunts Prem due to a lack of players with enough ability for that level. Keith said 'when Castor resign, why not take their place?'

We had assumed this would not be possible, no team has entered our pyramid so high up before. It was agreed that so we don't take anyones place, we would start in Cambs & Hunts Prem 2, with the team finishing second bottom (wayward hayward's club) not being relegated to fill the space left by Castor.

Castor's committee dragged their heels for 2 weeks, at one point declaring they would enter a side in the Cambs & Hunts Prem 1 (the second team didn't manage to get out of Hunts 3, which is 5 divisions below) but eventually they fell on their sword and resigned.

This week we were finally able to sign off on things with Ketton, their committee voting unanimously to buy into our project. The new club (including the Sunday side) will be known as Ketton Lions CC ( vitas crickets lion logo being a nice tie in ;) ) and we will have a side in the Cambs & Hunts Prem 2 and a side in Rutland 3; the league Castor won this season. All games will of course be at Ketton, and luckily the Ketton boys already have a fair bit of pink in their kit. :)

In 2015 we hope to have second teams on Saturdays and Sundays. If we can, we will get a second team into a league this season, but it is tight with league AGM's coming up.

So there we have it. This has been my life for the past month. From to-ing and fro-ing in 4 hour long meetings with dinosaurs stuck in the past, to finally having our dream project set in stone. We have always struggled to attract quality to Castor due to the facilities. We always play hard (and mostly fair) and have enjoyed a decent amount of success, but most importantly we are the most fun loving club around in my opinion. Fantastic social scene (ask Simmy for comments on our tour to Leeds and Wakefield this Summer) and as a result, we have team spirit that cannot be matched. Now we have the deck and clubhouse to back all this up, the sky is the limit. For the first time ever, we have had people apporaching us looking to sign up.

Please follow @KettonLionsCC on twitter (and @VitasCricket if you don't already) to keep in the loop with our club as we take our first steps over the Winter. I've hyperlinked the text for you, so just click the twitter handles to go to the relevant pages.

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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 11:31:30 PM »

Good luck with it Jake. Sounds like a nightmare of a process to have to go through but hope it all proves worthwhile in the end.
Will you miss anything about your old club or had things soured too much by the end?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 11:45:47 PM »

Ugg that sounds like such a tiring chore! Glad you guys resolved it.

Jake... Can I join your team, lol, you know I like pink!!!
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 11:57:19 PM »

Ah, club politics. The greatest downfall of many a great club.

I'm glad everything has finally worked out for you guys, I know how frustrating dealing with committees can be.
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 12:39:42 AM »

Many thanks for the kind words guys.

Good luck with it Jake. Sounds like a nightmare of a process to have to go through but hope it all proves worthwhile in the end.
Will you miss anything about your old club or had things soured too much by the end?

By the end, the first team and the rest of the club were so detached that it was like 2 different clubs anyway. Many of the younger lads in the 2's refusing to play for us when we were short, having been brainwashed by older players who disagreed with our way of doing things. I wouldn't have dreamed of turning down my first team captains offer of a game when i was 15....

Ugg that sounds like such a tiring chore! Glad you guys resolved it.

Jake... Can I join your team, lol, you know I like pink!!!

If you can make it to Peterborough every week then you are welcome mate, the more the merrier.

Ah, club politics. The greatest downfall of many a great club.

I'm glad everything has finally worked out for you guys, I know how frustrating dealing with committees can be.

Tell me about it, all over now. On board with like minded people who will take care of things, leaving us to worry about the playing side of it.

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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 01:32:51 AM »


If you can make it to Peterborough every week then you are welcome mate, the more the merrier.


if i could make it every week id consider it, starting to think a fresh start and a higher level cant be a bad thing!!!!
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 09:50:22 AM »

Sounds like it all came good in the end  :) Terrific news for you guys. It can't be underestimated how important good facilities are in top level league cricket.
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 10:40:58 AM »

Glad to hear you've done what sounds to me like the right thing! It's about time some club dinosaurs realise they are the ones destroying things as they are old and past it.

Also, it gives your place a club to support and push forwards which I'm sure will lead them to being one of the bigger clubs around with a cricket business backing them. I can't understand why a club would let you two go especially, let alone the rest.

Sad state of affairs for a club to have to resign and fall down leagues because if the facilities aren't great then the chance of them growing again is slim.

Are you going to start up youth teams etc or is that a few years away ?
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 11:32:52 AM »

Of course the cool thing about a brand new club is that you can start traditions like maybe giving first team player numbers like pros, keep proper detailed stats from every game etc. I'm very tempted to drive back to play like I used to do with thrapston! A new club sounds better than joining an established one!
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 11:36:08 AM »

if i could make it every week id consider it, starting to think a fresh start and a higher level cant be a bad thing!!!!

We are hoping many more share the same view as you. :)

Sounds like it all came good in the end  :) Terrific news for you guys. It can't be underestimated how important good facilities are in top level league cricket.

Yes it's been a hard slog, but we are really excited for the future now.

Glad to hear you've done what sounds to me like the right thing! It's about time some club dinosaurs realise they are the ones destroying things as they are old and past it.

Also, it gives your place a club to support and push forwards which I'm sure will lead them to being one of the bigger clubs around with a cricket business backing them. I can't understand why a club would let you two go especially, let alone the rest.

Sad state of affairs for a club to have to resign and fall down leagues because if the facilities aren't great then the chance of them growing again is slim.

Are you going to start up youth teams etc or is that a few years away ?

To an extent I understand the views of some people at the club. We are a small village club, we should play in the village blah blah blah. It could also be argued that the first team has progressed too quick for the club to keep up. Although I don't see how going up one division in 6 years is moving too quickly myself.

There are a few guys there who are either so far removed from the playing side, or who play such a low standard now (Sunday 2's) that I don't think they realise how bad the wicket especially has become. There was a committee member who said he thought it played better than ever this summer. Our response was "with respect, bowling your lobs in Rutland division 6 is not the same as Steve Seymour (he plays for Victoria and claimed the wickets of sanagakarra and jayawardene in a tour game last year) running in looking to kill someone."

Castor will progress and grow again, although not to the levels robin has managed, many players, myself included only joined the club due to him.

It's not just ourselves backing this new club. One of the boys in their Sunday side, a close friend of ours, is the owner of Durant Cricket. A cricket ground equipment company, hence the electronic scoreboard and other top facilities at the club.

Ketton already have an established youth setup, but many players either give up or move elsewhere when they get into their late teens as currently only 1 side a weekend on a Sunday is offered by way of adult cricket.
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 11:42:27 AM »

Of course the cool thing about a brand new club is that you can start traditions like maybe giving first team player numbers like pros, keep proper detailed stats from every game etc. I'm very tempted to drive back to play like I used to do with thrapston! A new club sounds better than joining an established one!

We have some brand new traditions in the pipeline for sure.

More than welcome mate. :)

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2013, 11:46:52 AM »

Reading all this again now that I am sober makes you realise what an accomplishment this is.

Well done Jake (and Ryan), great move and hopefully your future will be bright.

I am sorry I won't be able to join your club though as I am South London. I am looking to join Addiscombe CC at the start of the season, their ground is top notch, my old club Ightham CC just has a shed as a pavilion and players have to chip in with the ground maintance. We don't have nets or practice sessions, we just turn up on a Saturday and play. However Addiscombe have a dedicated groundmen, nets, practice twice a week, a proper pavalion, bar etc. really makes a difference.

P.S just saw your Ketton lions kit - the pink backsides made me giggle!
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2013, 11:52:19 AM »

Many thanks mate, it has been hard work. It will all be worth it though I am sure.

I agree, you can't beat top facilities.

The pink backsides are Ketton's current kit. We will incorporate it into our kit no doubt, as we have plenty of pink ourselves...



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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2013, 12:16:06 PM »

Good on you Jake! You and Lenny the Lion should have the choice to play at the best standard with the best facilities.

Nobody died and both clubs will evolve in their own way.

All the best mate.
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Re: Ketton Lions CC (a brand new club)
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2013, 12:28:50 PM »

Can I buy one of them shirts as they are mint
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