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Golfer's elbow !
« on: March 05, 2016, 09:24:16 PM »

Ironic as I threw my golf clubs away about 20 years ago but I've just had this diagnosis after a year not really being able to throw over arm or bowl(I use the term bowl loosely)
I've been whizzing the ball in underarm viv Richards style for a year as I couldn't throw it over arm more than about five feet

So it's tendinitis in the shoulder and this golfer's elbow.....
I've got some weird excercises to do for a couple of months,the question I have is has anyone ever had this and is it really 3-6 months before the muscles get strong enough to power it in over the stumps from 200 yards away like I did in my yoof?
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 12:49:43 PM »

I have had this before (in my 20s). I do remember it took 3-6 months of doing the rehab exercises before I was symptom free - although I could do my sports during that time if I was careful. Golfer's elbow is another variation of tendonitis. This was in my pre-cricket days (badminton injury) so can't say how long until you have/regain your bullet throw from the long boundary.

Can you use it as an excuse to be moved off the boundary rope? We have a couple of older guys who play against us and from 20 yards they rarely miss the stumps under arm. They are quite effective at drying up the quick singles.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 12:58:26 PM »

thanks, yes I think it's going to be in the ring all season

the thing is with this is once you get into your forties(im there!) al lot of guys I play with have lost their arm's, so I do think you can lose your throw late on just due to wear and tear.

But it's rehab excercises and I have been told there will be significant improvement, so my arm has not 'gone' but I doubt the power will be there.

Oddly enough, I've been playing a long time and I don't recall many bowlers having this injury

Out of interest...did you get all the power back in your arm after the rehab was done?

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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2016, 12:58:57 PM »

Golfers elbow, or tendinitis of the Palmar flexor muscles in the underarm, is a long term diagnosis, and basically extending your elbow, supinating your underarm whilst Palmar flexing your wrist at the same time in a concentric movement, almost at any strain, will be painful.

What I've found to work is heat/20 min, cold 20/min nothing 20/min. This makes the tissue regenerate quicker.

Ultrasound always works with tendinitis, but you need someone to do it for you.

Laser treatment can also speeden up the process.

Kinesiotape can remodel the neurorespons in the elbow, hence helping you, and it also does a bit of myofascial release in the area, which usually helps the pain.

It takes time, the exercises are boring, but you need to work hard on the eccentric  failure training, to undo the tendons so they can heal properly.

Hope this helps your mindset.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2016, 01:00:51 PM by SteffanLangholz »
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2016, 01:06:42 PM »

My GP actually gave me acupuncture to ease mine a few years ago, I was sceptical but I've never had a problem since. Was a private GP mind you wouldn't expect to see that one on the NHS! Might be a good accompaniment to the exercises and other treatment.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2016, 01:14:06 PM »

that's definatley worth looking into thanks for all the replies...

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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2016, 01:24:34 PM »

My GP actually gave me acupuncture to ease mine a few years ago, I was sceptical but I've never had a problem since. Was a private GP mind you wouldn't expect to see that one on the NHS! Might be a good accompaniment to the exercises and other treatment.
How could I forget. Yes, dry needling! That's an absolute first resort.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2016, 01:29:26 PM »

How could I forget. Yes, dry needling! That's an absolute first resort.

Yeah should add that this is the trigger point type or dry needling, not that esoteric Chinese version. Weird sensation when things start twitching I should add. Was not a fan of the process but the outcome was excellent!
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2016, 01:31:50 PM »

It's called grapping and releasing. Hate the process, love the outcome.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2016, 01:34:39 PM »

This is great advise thanks all
I had never thought of acupuncture but im now checking this out
I figured some on the forum would of had this injury as its fairly common in swimming or a throwing action
The golfers elbow happens when you whip the ball in when the muscles are strained according to my physio
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2016, 01:44:26 PM »

Yep I struggled with it for a good couple of years and played through it as I didn't want to take a break. KT tape does the job to get you through games, what finally seems to have kicked it was lifting/throwing/bowling nothing for two months when I was out with another injury and careful stretching and rehabbing in the gym when I got back mobile again.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2016, 06:59:54 PM »

Echo all the above - sorry to hear you're suffering.

If you have a physio that will indulge you, or are willing to pay a sports physio, the only other thing worth looking at is if there is anything specific about your throwing etc that has CAUSED this in the first place, and whether it is correctable.

Otherwise, you may "get over" this episode, but suffer a recurrence...

Just something to think about for the future
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2016, 07:31:31 PM »

Thanks I did pay to see a physio on Friday. I presumed......very wrongly......he was going to massage the area like everyone else I've seen

In fact he spent 40 mins talking to me and explaining what was wrong and then 20 mins advising on excercises.

You're obviously familiar with physio work from your post and the 'reaching for the can of beans' was referenced lots of times.I did it one way he did it another...

I will have to relearn the mechanics of throwing to use the muscles once they are strengthened.

In simple terms he explained it needs to be more 'round' as the shoulder moves

I'm not sure right now how much improvement I will get, but there will be some.

Just thinking about some pro cricketers who lose their arm there is quite a few.
Not 100 per cent sure but I think David Gower was well know for not 'having an arm' in the outfield.
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2016, 08:35:57 PM »

I had golfers elbow about 10 years ago, did it playing kwik cricket, constant slogging lol... it was on and off for about 2 years! 
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Re: Golfer's elbow !
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2016, 08:44:05 PM »

I had golfers elbow about 10 years ago, did it playing kwik cricket, constant slogging lol... it was on and off for about 2 years! 

Ah another fellow sufferer! I knew there was a few of us...
Did it go away on its own?
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