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Re: Stance
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2017, 10:41:45 AM »

Glad you enjoyed it @roco.  Have you now mastered the on drive?
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Re: Stance
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2017, 11:00:12 AM »

not mastered but better
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Re: Stance
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2017, 04:18:39 AM »

Agree with most of the comments here, w.r.t. closed or open stance, there is no right or wrong. I personally have been a terrible batsman all my life with an open stance (and i didn't even know i was having an open stance, always thought i was not a good enough batsman!) until i changed to the closed stance, and started scoring a lot of runs....Also, I was personally inspired by one of the best technique out there, Sachin, always staying side on and seeing one of his video where he said to stay side on is the key to batting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGZdFApgtqM
Looks like it all boils down to what works best for each..
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Re: Stance
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 01:20:18 PM »

Update: managed to have a net this week for the first time in ages, so tried out a slightly more open/front on stance. The main difference was it put less strain on my dodgy groin, but it felt comfortable so i'm going to stick with it.

The main improvement though was getting my hands higher (as per Julian Wood's tips). As an opener I've always played with low hands to avoid getting bowled or lbw, but batting with high hands really helped me take on the pull shot and gave me much greater power through the ball.

Amazing the difference a net can make ;-)
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Re: Stance
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 01:32:01 PM »


The main improvement though was getting my hands higher (as per Julian Wood's tips). As an opener I've always played with low hands to avoid getting bowled or lbw, but batting with high hands really helped me take on the pull shot and gave me much greater power through the ball.

Amazing the difference a net can make ;-)

By "low hands", do you mean holding the bat low or keeping your bat and hands low as in crouching down?
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Re: Stance
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2017, 11:54:51 PM »

Not low in terms of the handle of the bat.

Low in terms of not picking it up high in my backlift i.e. the opposite of how Jonny Bairstow stands at the crease.
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Re: Stance
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2017, 07:57:17 AM »

Used this first time yesterday

Highest score of season missed 1 ball but thankfully wasn't given

Feels weird looks wrong but works
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Re: Stance
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2017, 01:23:30 PM »

I had a flirt with being more open but it seemed to end in disaster. When I looked at the video I was actually really closed off with my shoulders/ arms/ bat despite placing my feet and hips differently.

Anyway, I had some more time in the nets and stuck with it and it is already starting to feel more natural. I think the videos still look quite normal or even closed at times in my upper body, but compared to how I was before it feels like I am facing the ball head on! I think giving my hands room is another things that suits me otherwise I get a bit rigid and don't flow so well. Although the videos don't have any straighter, full balls, I did feel able to play through the on side reasonably naturally too which never happens!

Here some front foot shots: https://youtu.be/EfO7iV7vqwo

Still need to get the balance right and resist the temptation to close off my shoulder too early and over balance. Not the most challenging line but I wasn't able to make contact with anything full a few days before this so I'll take the improvement. The plays and misses were all over balancing and trying to play inside out but I knew as soon as the ball was released what would happen as I didn't set up right.

Some back foot shots too: https://youtu.be/9hhZHCBO9Kc

I can count on one hand the number of pull shots I've ever made contact with so although there is a long way to go there is some small improvement!

Onwards and upwards :)
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Re: Stance
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2017, 02:35:47 PM »

I have come to the conclusion that my stance does not matter!

If a bowler bowls a straight ball within my first 6-10 balls I face, I'm going to miss it! (Annoying Fact)
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Re: Stance
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2017, 02:49:45 PM »

Sounds remarkably similar to my season so far!
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Re: Stance
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2017, 03:24:13 PM »

I have come to the conclusion that my stance does not matter!

If a bowler bowls a straight ball within my first 6-10 balls I face, I'm going to miss it! (Annoying Fact)

Which means your bat isn't coming down straight, which is something very easy to fix with some shadow batting and throw downs using your top hand only.
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Re: Stance
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »

I found after the session I was hitting straight a lot better

Gary worked on getting my front leg and shoulder out of the way which gave my bat a free line at the ball

With the above vids I would say chuck your right elbow out more as I was tucking my elbow in like you which was stopping me hitting straight and was going into out rather than straight

Hope it helps as after my 2 hour lashing I stopped but it took being told off 40+ times so I must be a slow learner
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Re: Stance
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2017, 05:10:01 PM »

With the above vids I would say chuck your right elbow out more as I was tucking my elbow in like you which was stopping me hitting straight and was going into out rather than straight

Hope it helps as after my 2 hour lashing I stopped but it took being told off 40+ times so I must be a slow learner

@roco if you mean my vids, I definitely agree. It is still taking a while to fight the instinct for a square on body and high front elbow for every single shot which brings the back elbow in and bring the bat in too much. Fine for some balls but play inside out a lot as you say. If I thought about holding the bat out a touch longer and try to stay face on (probably still pretty side on in reality)  a touch longer then I have time to react to different balls on their merit. Not there at all yet but I can see the value in sticking with the op n stance
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Re: Stance
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2017, 05:17:37 PM »

Still feels completely wrong to me mate and I had 2 hours with him so don't worry about that

In my knock sat I closed my shoulders a couple of times so it's hard after years of doing it the other way

Just try to remember left shoulder facing straight mid on

A practice he had me do was try to hit 2 sixes so clear front leg then play normal for 2 to get used to being open

Hope it helps
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Re: Stance
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2017, 06:38:49 PM »

It is all really interesting and helpful, thanks @roco

I had another 2 hours on a bowling machine after that session and could already feel it becoming more normal and I definitely see it as something to persevere with.

The main problem is keeping the practice up as those 4 hours playing around with an open stance in the past few days is all I've batted since March! In a match situation bad habits take over with poor results!
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