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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2017, 07:18:56 AM »

Managed to get my hands on a couple thanks to county crickets playing for my club, they tend to be a lot softer and huge for the weight, both have performed wrestle well but I agree it's all a mental thing
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2017, 07:24:03 AM »

Have used a couple of admittedly bats that pro's had rejected, or had breaks and needed a small repair.  They were not noticeably better, but because a pro had used them, there was an increased confidence in using the bat. 
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2017, 08:07:59 AM »

I've heard stories of pros scoring thousands of runs with Grade 2s and 3s bought from sports shops. I'm sure Dave will back me up on this.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2017, 08:19:08 AM »

I've heard stories of pros scoring thousands of runs with Grade 2s and 3s bought from sports shops. I'm sure Dave will back me up on this.
Was it Michael Vauhan who picked up a GM from a shop on his way to a ashes test match, as his had broke the day before
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2017, 08:39:40 AM »

Reckon many of the H4L's and Keeley customs that people get on here are better than what the average pro gets.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2017, 08:46:32 AM »

Reckon many of the H4L's and Keeley customs that people get on here are better than what the average pro gets.
Wouldn't be surprised, didn't get to bat with it but had a pick up and tap up of a county pro issue GM last year and it really wasn't anything special. Nice bat, but wouldn't have used it over my personal favourites.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2017, 08:56:54 AM »

Reckon many of the H4L's and Keeley customs that people get on here are better than what the average pro gets.

Definitely agree with this!
As stated a long time ago, most pro players go on the feel and pickup of their bats! As long as they are pressed ok, their main reason for picking a bat is more about how it feels!
When you consider that the average Pro faces 80-85mph balls (and sometimes a tad quicker) then surely even edges will fly to the boundary!
At our level the response (or ping) is a lot more important as we need to generate our own ball speed as the bowling tends to be a little slower than 85mph  :(

What I am trying to say is that most pros are likely to be looking for different qualities in a bat than most of us are looking for!
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2017, 09:15:36 AM »

Everyone one should choose a bat on pick-up and feel really. But I can understand why you might not if you were a *cough* collector.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2017, 09:29:25 AM »

* But I strongly disagree with the 'ping is more important at a lower level' statement.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2017, 09:40:01 AM »

I completely agree with Pete. When you are facing 85mph or a spinner bowling at 50mph, being comfortable at the crease and timing is much more important to most players than bat size. Doesn't take a lot of wood to ramp that speed or to send one rocketing through the covers.

In my personal experience, the only difference between my old sponsorship bats and my off the shelf bats is the overall pressing (Among the three brands I have used) and, in my opinion, this tends to make pro bats that bit bigger.

The "Pro" bats tend to be softer pressed and, generally, do not get knocked in. They are used as "Ready to go, out of the packet" bats, but tend to be smashed to splinters after a season of use and need some serious TLC or binning at that point. However from what I have seen, if you are on TV, you will get the better looking wood, or lower density willow, as beauty and size are the key marketing points in the cricket industry (as well as others!).

The "normal" bats are harder pressed and need more time to open up and play their way in. This tends to elongate the life of the bat and therefore provides less of a risk to the batmaker of returns and the usual issues related to retail sales, while being more cost effective to the consumer.

Ultimately, the "optimum" life of the bat is probably the same, though if I am paying 200-500 for a bat, you can bet on your life that I want one that lasts longer! If I am not paying... Happy days!

However, I may just be tight!
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2017, 09:45:18 AM »

Have seen & used a lot of aussie pro bats , got ducks with both a marto & punter bats , have also run down the pitch laughing at how far the ball went , they have all been beautifull , the one constant is how they were damaged by international games , all had depressions from balls , they are indeed big & light compared to shop bats , but they do not last , the price for playing the best cricket & facing 150kmh bowling
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2017, 09:46:58 AM »

Soft press = ready to go - really now?
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2017, 09:50:11 AM »

Soft pressed actually means overdried is what some of the above seems to suggest.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2017, 09:55:45 AM »

Soft press = ready to go - really now?

Softer pressed, in relation to "retail" pressing, would facilitate the bat to be closer to its optimum performance point out of the packet.

Soft pressed actually means overdried is what some of the above seems to suggest.

Not always. A lot of companies use overdried willow to get the density they are looking for these days. I'm not sure how the drying process would relate to the pressing process here. However, the drying process will have an effect on the longevity of the bat, just as soft pressing would to the edges and impact zone.
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Re: Anyone ever use a real pro bat?
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2017, 10:06:16 AM »

Here we go...
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