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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2018, 08:04:15 AM »

Nice to see the youngsters can play spin just as well as the senior guys  :( :o

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/624779/warrican-puts-lions-under-pressure-in-jamaica
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2018, 08:09:00 AM »

Pitches in the Windies are so spin friendly that their domestic 4 day comp awards points for every wicket your side takes with a seamer, so not sure we can read too much into it.
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2018, 09:45:51 AM »

Well it should be a good education for them, in preparation for playing in the sub-continent, although we are getting bonked so far - all wickets going to spinners I think!
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2018, 09:49:45 AM »

Well it should be a good education for them, in preparation for playing in the sub-continent, although we are getting bonked so far - all wickets going to spinners I think!

Not even sure the Indians prepare raging turners like they get these days.
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2018, 10:45:10 AM »

Severely underwhelming batting display again, I know I'm being dramatic but doesn't bode well for the future really, the big guns in the lions squad aren't firing, livingstone especially struggling this tour. How come he's bowled so much too, 16 overs as a part timer compared to 3 overs of Crane, seems a strange move by the captain
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2018, 11:02:53 AM »

I was under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that Livingstone has the potential to be more than a part time bowler, he mixes offies with leggies I think.

Perhaps they view him as more of a Moeen type player.
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »

1. English captains don't understand leg spin?
2. Crane isn't really very good?
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2018, 12:50:38 PM »

Yeh I'd read that livingstone was initially more of a bower before his batting and improved vastly, still seems strange crane only having 3 overs so far, correct though maybe he isn't actually that good. We've had a few promising leggies recently who have faded away a bit, Beer and Waller to name 2
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2018, 04:25:42 PM »

1. English captains don't understand leg spin?
2. Crane isn't really very good?

Or struggles whilst the ball is new and shiny?
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 05:59:41 PM »


Lions getting an absolute pasting! But 6 wickets for Leach in a marathon 41 overs! And Crane draws a blank in 14!

http://cricketwestindies.org/index.php/match-centre/

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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2018, 06:29:11 PM »

Or struggles whilst the ball is new and shiny?

Yes, that too. I am more inclined to point one. An English-Saffer captain is even worse.
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2018, 07:29:48 PM »

Livingstone ruled out for the rest of the tour with an ankle injury and concern for the test series against New Zealand.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22574271/livingstone-emerges-injury-worry-new-zealand-tests
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2018, 08:20:11 PM »

Shame for living stone if he is out, with Stokes back thou it might give Vince, and maybe Stoneman a bit of breathing space.

No one I can see has really got runs on the lions tour, we seem to be playing on pitches like 1980 s Indian tracks which go square on day 1.

Apart from Livingstone, I'm not sure who would be next in line for a call up. Hameed and Jennings I suppose

Joe Clarke you would think needs to score big he might have a chance, very highly rated by the management, like others thou,just does not score heavy enough
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2018, 09:11:33 PM »

Shame for living stone if he is out, with Stokes back thou it might give Vince, and maybe Stoneman a bit of breathing space.

No one I can see has really got runs on the lions tour, we seem to be playing on pitches like 1980 s Indian tracks which go square on day 1.

Apart from Livingstone, I'm not sure who would be next in line for a call up. Hameed and Jennings I suppose

Joe Clarke you would think needs to score big he might have a chance, very highly rated by the management, like others thou,just does not score heavy enough

If Livingstone doesn't make the tour of New Zealand then I'd probably go for Hameed. For me Jennings looked too static at the crease and his feet just seemed to be concrete. I do hope he has improved his game but I haven't seen much of him since he got dropped from the test side.
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Re: England Lions in West Indies - Red Ball
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2018, 10:41:54 PM »

If Livingstone is ruled out I imagine Gary Ballance will get a free holiday to New Zealand...
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