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billyb

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Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:19:15 PM »

Answers on a postcard!
Considering a Kook small mens or GM Academy this season, but I'm a little hesitant.
Has anyone used one before?
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 07:33:10 PM »

They are generally around a 540mm length blade/full width and plenty of people love l540 GM's like the Mana and Neon. Cheaper too. The only real disadvantage is lower weights which may or may not be a good thing for you. In Aus, GM do "academy Maxi" bats, basically the same but heavier so that could be a way around it. On the other hand you could just ask for a fractionally shorter blade custom bat from one of the forum sponsors and you'll get exactly what you want for similar money.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 08:24:35 PM »

Heavier weights in those sizes are hard to come by. I suspect the reason prices are low for those bats is because bat-makers choose smaller clefts that are unusable for larger bats. Downsizing a larger cleft to a smaller bat might not cost effective.

The other thing I have noticed is getting the balance right in a smaller, heavier bat. It'd be hard to do it without a high spine or a much thicker evenly spread mass which again leads to a big cleft reduced to fit the size. Hence, costly.

I hate Laver now because they were the first to tout the bat sizing tool but he did make me an amazing size-6 in a 3lb weight...I got a cracker of a cleft too ...could be a Signature worthy cleft but it is stickered as a Reserve.

Because of my tennis-elbow, I will be using a 2-8, size 6 bat in the nets in pre-season. They are fun little bats to whip around. :D
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 08:43:02 PM »

Interesting. I might just have to bite the bullet and see! I netted with a harrow a couple of years ago and I was able to time the ball so much better, but assumed I was just playing well... Maybe it's time to have another look.
The prices are really, really reasonable too.
180 for Kahuna Pro or Blaze Pro (2018)
200 for a GM Zelos Original.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 09:02:43 PM »

@billyb I am not sure if I am allowed to say it here but I got GM Chrome 909 brand new.

If not allowed to sell please warn me once.

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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 09:28:12 PM »

Interesting. I might just have to bite the bullet and see! I netted with a harrow a couple of years ago and I was able to time the ball so much better, but assumed I was just playing well... Maybe it's time to have another look.
The prices are really, really reasonable too.
180 for Kahuna Pro or Blaze Pro (2018)
200 for a GM Zelos Original.


Onyx pro small mens 149
https://www.3dsports.co.uk/2016-kookaburra-onyx-junior-pro-cricket-bat.html

Zelos original academy 189 (they did have a chrome original for 164...I was tempted but now sold out).
http://www.morrant.com/cricket_bats/gunn__moore_zelos_original_cricket_bat_academy/161404_p.html

I have one of the old style newbery 7 academy bats (player grade back then, the newer models i think are lower grades) it's a decent size 2'8.5lbs and the performance is good. As previous poster mentioned it maybe harder to balance...mine certainly feels quite bottom heavy. Width as with most academy bats is 4mm narrower but I don't notice it. IJC do a video review of the old version.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 09:42:57 PM »

I have a harrow H4L nv that I used as my match bat for 2 seasons. It's 2.8 with 2 1/2 grips and goes very well. The minimal width difference isn't noticeable, it's just in your head! It's a g1 and cost just 125. So significant saving for no realistic difference in performance.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 10:00:25 PM »

Interesting. I might just have to bite the bullet and see! I netted with a harrow a couple of years ago and I was able to time the ball so much better, but assumed I was just playing well... Maybe it's time to have another look.
The prices are really, really reasonable too.
180 for Kahuna Pro or Blaze Pro (2018)
200 for a GM Zelos Original.


If you interested.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 11:43:44 PM »

Cheers for the recommendations chaps, I looked at the Newbery 7 a few seasons ago, but I had an absolute aberration of a Mjolnir SPS a few years back that put me off them (asked for 2lb 7oz, got 2lb 13oz).
That Zelos deal is tasty.
Looks like a nice stick @jayralh, what's the profile on a Chrome like?
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 07:25:19 AM »

I love my SM Impala. About 2.6. Well worth trying out and seeing if it works for you.

« Last Edit: January 21, 2018, 07:30:30 AM by Nmcgee »
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2018, 08:06:48 AM »

Interesting. I might just have to bite the bullet and see! I netted with a harrow a couple of years ago and I was able to time the ball so much better, but assumed I was just playing well... Maybe it's time to have another look.
The prices are really, really reasonable too.
180 for Kahuna Pro or Blaze Pro (2018)
200 for a GM Zelos Original.
Kook also do a kahuna 1000 in small adults as well

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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2018, 08:15:18 AM »

Cheers for the recommendations chaps, I looked at the Newbery 7 a few seasons ago, but I had an absolute aberration of a Mjolnir SPS a few years back that put me off them (asked for 2lb 7oz, got 2lb 13oz).
That Zelos deal is tasty.
Looks like a nice stick @jayralh, what's the profile on a Chrome like?
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/GM-Chrome-909-Cricket-bat-Grade-1-brand-new/173103661850?hash=item284dc8431a:g:jRkAAOSwVRtaXleb

Edges are actually 35 not 37. You can do with second grip and good to go.
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2018, 08:41:33 AM »

A slightly shorter blade Kook sounds mighty tempting! I didn't realise they did them. Do they do Ghosts as well?
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2018, 08:48:04 AM »

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/GM-Chrome-909-Cricket-bat-Grade-1-brand-new/173103661850?hash=item284dc8431a:g:jRkAAOSwVRtaXleb

Edges are actually 35 not 37. You can do with second grip and good to go.

Sorry buddy, I'm after a small men's instead of a harrow! Thanks though.

A slightly shorter blade Kook sounds mighty tempting! I didn't realise they did them. Do they do Ghosts as well?

Only the Kahuna and Blaze this year I think!
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Re: Are Small Mens/Academy bats actually any good?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2018, 02:18:07 PM »

Found that kook onyx pro small men's cheaper. They also mention weights between 2'8.5 and 2'10.5. 129.99

https://seriouscricket.co.uk/equipment/clearance/kookaburra-onyx-pro-junior-cricket-bat-2016/

I'm also tempted by the kook kahuna 2000 small men's for 89.99!

https://www.3dsports.co.uk/2016-kookaburra-kahuna-2000-junior-cricket-bat.html
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