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England test tour to New Zealand
« on: March 14, 2018, 02:13:02 PM »

As the white ball series is over and discussion moves to the test series thought we could do with a dedicated topic

Ill start:

Drop Vince Malan to 3 stokes in at 5

Side looks more balanced and better

Drop broad for trj

No need for much else to change other than form!
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 03:14:57 PM »

Think the calls to drop Broad may be a little premature. Judging by the videos online he's been working hard to amend/resolve his action problems to assist his bowling. I think this series will be a key one for him though.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 03:41:15 PM »

Think the calls to drop Broad may be a little premature. Judging by the videos online he's been working hard to amend/resolve his action problems to assist his bowling. I think this series will be a key one for him though.

Agreed they maybe a little early and glad to see he has been working on those problems......... however if he carries on throwing pies down like in the current warm up game then it won't be long.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 03:58:11 PM »

Mark my words - I know my shizzle - and his goose is cooked.

Time for a thrusting young cub to kick the old lion into the undergrowth of retirement
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 04:09:03 PM »

As the topic is moved, here is the team for the first test.
Brucie, you are wrong about Broad.

Why are people not picking Broad? Are 400 test wickets not enough?

The team for the first test will be

Cook
Stoneman
Vince (not my pick, will be interesting to see if Malan gets a go at 3 in the warm up games)
Root
Malan (I would have him at 3 and bairstow at 5
Stokes
Bairstow (I would have Livingston at 7 for now)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 04:14:09 PM »

Here's mine, same but Wood in for Woakes if fit as he will hopefully offer something different. With Stokes back we've enough bowling to use Wood in short sharp bursts and don't need Woakes to shore up the lower order. I'd also bat Malan at 3 and Vince at 5.

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Vince
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Wood
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 04:22:59 PM »

As i said on the other thread -

I think the team will be

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Mo
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

However i wouldn't of even had Vince on the plane! I would have Malan at 3, Bairstow at 5 and bring in Livingstone at 7 to blood him in there.

I keep Broad in for now because class is permanent - but i think his time is definately running out as he is getting slower and losing the ability to move the ball away from the RHB.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 04:39:53 PM »

If everyone is fit this would be my line up for the first test

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Livingstone
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

I think Vince has had enough chances and needs to be dropped. Push Malan to 3 and debut Livingstone at 5.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 05:07:09 PM »

Here's mine, same but Wood in for Woakes if fit as he will hopefully offer something different. With Stokes back we've enough bowling to use Wood in short sharp bursts and don't need Woakes to shore up the lower order. I'd also bat Malan at 3 and Vince at 5.

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Vince
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Wood
Broad
Anderson

Woakes is the next James Anderson and will take the new ball once Jimmy retires for at least the next 5 years. If hes fit, hell be playing
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 05:51:15 PM »

Woakes is the next James Anderson and will take the new ball once Jimmy retires for at least the next 5 years. If hes fit, hell be playing

I think there is a good chance Woakes will take the new ball with Jimmy in the 1st Test. Don't forget it is Pink ball under lights.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 06:30:36 PM »

 Wood, will he ever be the answer? Im not sure his good enough. On that basis Broad keeps his place, but i think. Id drop Broad before Woakes now.

Dont know enough about Livingstone to comment on the batters.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2018, 06:31:14 PM »

As mentioned in the ODI thread I'll be at both tests. Anyone for a beer?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2018, 06:46:25 PM »

Broad stays for me but Woakes gets the new ball. Anyone who thinks the team won't be as Buzz posted is kidding themselves!

I'd consider dropping Vince and bring in either Foakes or Livingstone personally, but not 100% convinced now is actually the best time. Would rather be picking Livingstone on the back of good early season CC form and confidence than a Lions tour he didn't get on too well in.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2018, 07:30:25 PM »

Broad stays for me but Woakes gets the new ball. Anyone who thinks the team won't be as Buzz posted is kidding themselves!

I'd consider dropping Vince and bring in either Foakes or Livingstone personally, but not 100% convinced now is actually the best time. Would rather be picking Livingstone on the back of good early season CC form and confidence than a Lions tour he didn't get on too well in.

It's a short test series so whoever gets in batting wise-Vince- will have a couple of tests to prove he is or is not the right man for the job.

Personally I don't think he is technically sound enough to bat 3 whereas Malan is better and more importantly seems to have the temperament.i hope Vince proves me wrong but I've seen nothing so far to say we won't continue to get fantastic 40 s and get out which is no good to man nor beast.

Blame Bayliff and his one day mentality for that.

I'm absolutely baffled why people on this forum continue to pick Wood over 5 days, yes he is quick, yes he is a good bowler....he will just not last in test match cricket.his body won't withstand the hard yards needed for 5 days

Love Mark wood and hope he plays a big part in our one day WC, but not tests.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2018, 07:50:03 PM »

Yep given that Vince has toured then he's going to play, would guess he's got these two tests to try and get his name in the team for the summer. Realistically a batsman isn't getting dropped in a two test tour. Unless Vince scores bucketloads in the two tests then I wouldn't be surprised to see Malan batting 3 for Middlesex early season.
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