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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2018, 02:38:21 PM »

Leach only because he is the man in posession - and is perhaps a little more steady until Crane is fit and gets overs under his belt

Gleeson, only because press reports from the games he has played in stated that he was bowling quick even in wet tops and was darting it about a bit.

I'm hoping Gubbins overhauls Stoneman in the selectors favours, but I would like to see Stony given a few more go's first.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2018, 02:39:10 PM »

Would be great to have a leggie come through the ranks in the next few years.

Fair play to Lancs for giving Parkinson a few overs early in the season.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 05:35:21 PM »

Would have be good to see Moeen asking to open the batting at Worcs and trying to churn out the first class runs to prove people wrong and get his place in the side back. Shame he's giving some Indian benches a good polish instead!
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 05:38:01 PM »

Can't wait for Sam Curran or any sort of variation to make the side. Although leach? Gleeson? Stoneman also isnt long for the side if they can get Hameed in some form.

Out of the three, Curran worries me most
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 05:38:32 PM »

Would be great to have a leggie come through the ranks in the next few years.

After how Rashid was treated...?
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2018, 09:13:01 PM »

Leach only because he is the man in posession - and is perhaps a little more steady until Crane is fit and gets overs under his belt

I'd love to know what you've spotted in Crane that makes him a surefire pick above Leach Bruce - He looks a good prospect but that's it at the moment. Leach has shown great pedigree and consistency over the past few seasons.

Crane's hardly set the world alight.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2018, 10:20:49 PM »

Crane isn't even the best spinner at Hampshire.

Yes he's a young leg spinner with potential, but he's in no way good enough to be a frontline Test spinner yet, nor do I see him as the long term answer. He's a luxury bowler really, and is going to be another victim of overhype I fear.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2018, 01:30:52 AM »

After how Rashid was treated...?

Rashid isn't good though
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2018, 07:46:48 AM »

Also, I still believe (with absolutely no evidence whatsoever) that Rashid was a reluctant long-format player, and that attitude was clear to the management too, who then chose to move on from him.

I'm sure I'll be shot down by 't'brotherhood' but he seemed quick enough to stop 4 day cricket and I'm sure I read an article about his apparent laziness and reluctance on occasion to play.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2018, 07:51:00 AM »

I'd love to know what you've spotted in Crane that makes him a surefire pick above Leach Bruce - He looks a good prospect but that's it at the moment. Leach has shown great pedigree and consistency over the past few seasons.

Crane's hardly set the world alight.

Oh, don't get me wrong - it's more hope than any hard fact. It seems if you can get a wrist-spinner to somewhere near the required standard, whilst a luxury, he's a wicket taker and a potential match-winner.

I actually like Leach and as an ex-SLA myself, I'd love him to do well. It's just that I would love a leggie - any leggie - to come to the fore. I have also read good things about Parkinson at Lancs too.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2018, 08:21:02 AM »

Leach best prospect and he can bat
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2018, 08:30:41 AM »

We shouldn't be picking spinners because they can bat a bit. we should pick spinners who can take wickets.

Part-time batting spinners have been Englands downfall at times -

Mo
Dawson
Ansari

pick a spinner who can do the job and let Stokes, Woakes and Bairstow shore up the middle order.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2018, 11:12:59 AM »

Also, I still believe (with absolutely no evidence whatsoever) that Rashid was a reluctant long-format player, and that attitude was clear to the management too, who then chose to move on from him.

I'm sure I'll be shot down by 't'brotherhood' but he seemed quick enough to stop 4 day cricket and I'm sure I read an article about his apparent laziness and reluctance on occasion to play.

Dilly is an odd character - it's not so much about roles and formats as a need to feel loved. He's the classic example of someone who needed to be given word up front that the job was his come what may for the next year.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2018, 12:13:52 PM »

Out of the three, Curran worries me most

As in worries because he's a very decent bowler and should be at least training with England at home to get practice. Or because you dont rate him. Any left armer is a blessing these days.
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Re: Moeen Ali...what next.
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2018, 12:16:05 PM »

Also, I still believe (with absolutely no evidence whatsoever) that Rashid was a reluctant long-format player, and that attitude was clear to the management too, who then chose to move on from him.

I'm sure I'll be shot down by 't'brotherhood' but he seemed quick enough to stop 4 day cricket and I'm sure I read an article about his apparent laziness and reluctance on occasion to play.

Can't blame him, 4 days is a long time. Too long for most.
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