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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2018, 09:13:04 PM »

Central contract money isn't to bee sniffed at though, top boys are on a decent wedge aren't they. Isn't 700,000 about what they get, plus endorsements money, and is the match fee they get included in the700, 000? If not that's decent too and soon adds up, add to that the honour of representing your country at the highest level.

Can they not still play some of the high profile T20 stuff when possible and available?

Put that all together and that's plenty of money anyway, how much more they likely to earn if they just play white ball franchise stuff?
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2018, 10:11:42 PM »

I can not blame them they have earned the right to do what they like.

They do not see cricket like most of us do..
. Not blaming them at all they can go play in all the T20 Tournaments that are available to them but when it comes to Representing your Country select only from players that play in Red and White Ball Cricket  and County Cricket and  support the Growth of Cricket within the UK not just for your financial benefit. Because with out County Cricket  these so called white ball only players would be no where without the Counties that have supported and nurtured them over the past  10 plus years
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2018, 10:14:46 PM »

. Not blaming them at all they can go play in all the T20 Tournaments that are available to them but when it comes to Representing your Country select only from players that play in Red and White Ball Cricket  and County Cricket and  support the Growth of Cricket within the UK not just for your financial benefit. Because with out County Cricket  these so called white ball only players would be no where without the Counties that have supported and nurtured them over the past  10 plus years

How has that worked out for the West Indies?
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2018, 10:41:29 PM »

How has that worked out for the West Indies?
they've won the WT20 twice with their bunch of hired guns...
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2018, 10:43:38 PM »

Hales and Rashid have one day International contracts, as does butler/Plunkett/wood so it's these guys that will be following together you would think.

hales has released himself from all championship cricket, so he plays for England in limited over cricket, and for Notts

Apart from that he can play for whoever he wants if there are no Notts or England games.

That's as I understand it but please correct me if I'm wrong.He will of taken a pay cut from Notts, not that he is bothered you would not think.

Oddly enough....very oddly actually I read today Morgan is available for all cricket from the start of this season with Middlesex.

In the recent past, Morgan and Middlesex had an 'agreement' he was not picked. Whether he is/was good enough is a mute point, but he was not going to be selected in the past regardless.Looks like that might change for him.


Anyway, it's got to be Butler next. Personally I think it's a bit of a shame this is happening, but do you blame the players? Definitely not, sport is a short career, they cash in when they can.By opting out they might prolong their limited over careers.

I just worry about Stokes , he is a our diamond along with Root, I cannot see both playing all 3 forms of the game much longer.
Probably considered as a replacement for Malan, whom probably won't play too much for MCCC in the near future. And Morgan's basically got nothing else to do as he was snubbed in the IPL
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2018, 10:48:57 PM »

Hales giving up red ball cricket doesn't harm England in the slightest. Hales' first class record is modest at best. His Test returns where pretty pathetic, only looked the part against a truly ordinary Sri Lankan side. How ever 'weak' the middle order looks, there was never any chance Hales would be selected. Firstly Stokes bats at 5 when he available. Secondly I'd rather Roy be given an opportunity if a space became available rather than taking a backwards step with a tried flop like Hales.
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2018, 06:08:44 AM »

Ive said it over and over again,,,Hales has been winging it,,hes come through a system and shown a little ability
But unfortunately he lacks the extra ability to play competitive international cricket

And I seriously dont believe this is all we have out there in English cricket
The talent must be out there, its down to the ECB to look at there coaching/academy/selection system
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2018, 02:25:20 PM »

Reece Topley will be playing white ball cricket only in 2018

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43212976
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2018, 06:29:23 PM »

He's still playing?
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2018, 06:51:34 PM »

Who?

More interestingly Jos butler interview in the guardian yesterday, he won't be adding his name to the one day specialists, he wants his test place back.....

I didn't see that coming. This is the wrong thread for tests but.....if bairstow played as a specialist batter?
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2018, 06:53:42 PM »

He is only 24
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2018, 07:54:50 PM »

@ppccopener I think there's a stronger case for YJB to take the gloves in the white ball side than there is to give them up in the red ball side
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2018, 08:03:12 PM »

Fair point in which case for white ball cricket for arguments sake YJB keeps and bats

You might then have butler or hales to pick from as a specialist batter.

Which one would you choose?

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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2018, 08:10:25 PM »

@ppccopener I think there's a stronger case for YJB to take the gloves in the white ball side than there is to give them up in the red ball side
Really? Of the top 6 in the ODI side, Bairstow is probably the least secure in his place (last in and has only made runs vs WI), Buttler is nailed on and at best there's not much in between them with the gloves. In tests, either Bairstow will stay at 7 when Stokes returns in which case he keeps the gloves, or potentially moves to 5. If he's at 5 we'll realistically need another keeper.
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Re: Alex Hales quits red ball cricket
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2018, 08:30:33 PM »

Not much between them with the gloves?
YJBs glovework is much improved while Buttlers has remained stagnant (or if anything, digressed) in the past couple of years.

As for the test side, if YJB gives up the gloves who takes them? That would cause a bit of unbalance in the side would it not?
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