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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2018, 10:48:37 AM »

I switched from right arm off spinner to left arm medium pace bowling.

Wow!
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2018, 10:57:48 AM »

Most club spinners bowl way too slow and don't turn it much.

Perhaps just adapt your bowling rather than see it as two distinct disciplines?
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2018, 02:58:55 PM »

You mean another seam, rather than a twirl right? ;)

Was going to give the offies a go again tonight. Sadly the snow has scuppered me, indoor nets off venue shut.

Most club spinners bowl way too slow and don't turn it much.

Perhaps just adapt your bowling rather than see it as two distinct disciplines?

Historically I did bowl my spin relatively quickly but the level Im at now you do have to bowl slower. Perhaps I do need to return to my more natural pace from a few years ago.
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2018, 03:30:35 PM »

the level Im at now you do have to bowl slower.

Why do you?
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2018, 03:40:38 PM »

My guess would be you just get hacked across the line if you bowl quicker.

A lot of spinners in lower leagues are more successful if they slow it up and get it above the eyeline, eyes light up, same big hack is either a miss or a skyer (which someone will inevitably shell...)
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2018, 04:53:07 PM »

My guess would be you just get hacked across the line if you bowl quicker.

A lot of spinners in lower leagues are more successful if they slow it up and get it above the eyeline, eyes light up, same big hack is either a miss or a skyer (which someone will inevitably shell...)

But you don't if you call yourself a medium pacer?
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2018, 05:16:13 PM »

My guess would be you just get hacked across the line if you bowl quicker.

A lot of spinners in lower leagues are more successful if they slow it up and get it above the eyeline, eyes light up, same big hack is either a miss or a skyer (which someone will inevitably shell...)


Exactly which means Im in a catch 22. If I want to get wickets in 2s bowl it slow and toss it up but in 1s need to bowl quicker and flatter. My stock ball was quicker and flatter but got slogged in 2s or played as a medium pacer so they hit ball in unusual places to my field. Nets last week I just kept bowling full tosses and tbh i bowled a few last year too. This suggests Im trying to throw up too much. Also the majority of my time as a spinner was bowling on harder batting tracks now I bowl on soft green bowler friendly decks. This has had an impact too I would imagine on my speed and lengths.
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2018, 06:01:09 PM »

So if the tactic used by 2s batsmen against your quicker spin is such a winning one, why would 'better' 1s batsmen not adopt it? It's all about scoring runs, isn't it?

Personally, I can bowl seam-up as quickly as I can and still get called a spinner.  :o
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2018, 06:25:30 PM »

So if the tactic used by 2s batsmen against your quicker spin is such a winning one, why would 'better' 1s batsmen not adopt it? It's all about scoring runs, isn't it?

Personally, I can bowl seam-up as quickly as I can and still get called a spinner.  :o

Better batsmen play more orthodox and treat spinners with more respect. They tend to play the ball on merit and play straighter. They will look to milk singles and take less risks especially if on first change.
The lesser batsman sees spinner and just thinks Im slogging him out of park. They hit towards cow and will edge the ball/hit off centre so it goes between fielders. Toss it up above their eye line and they miss it more often. Do that to better batsman and you will need plenty of spares. Please some other forumites help me out here and agree!!
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 06:29:07 PM »

I can sort of see where you are coming from, and it reminds me of why I hate playing at the level I do.
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2018, 09:15:53 PM »

I know what you mean about the lesser batsmen slogging it in strange areas on the field - incredibly hard to set an effective field when even they don't know where it's going to go! I always seemed to find success having a backward/silly point and gully as I found batsmen would always try and drive me through the covers.

Of course sometimes they'd crack one and not even they knew where they'd hit it which resulted in a couple of entertaining run outs.
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2018, 09:20:45 PM »

I know what you mean about the lesser batsmen slogging it in strange areas on the field - incredibly hard to set an effective field when even they don't know where it's going to go! I always seemed to find success having a backward/silly point and gully as I found batsmen would always try and drive me through the covers.

Of course sometimes they'd crack one and not even they knew where they'd hit it which resulted in a couple of entertaining run outs.

Exactly mate I experimented with a fly slip as ball seemed to fly in that direction from booming drives! You are totally right they dont know where it is going how do you!
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2018, 11:23:09 PM »

Fly slip is a good run saving position in lower level club cricket I think
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2018, 08:26:20 AM »

Fly slip is a great option in the later overs of club cricket. Can always guarantee a floaty catch off a hoick at some point there. Save a load of runs too!
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Re: Switching from spin to seam
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2018, 12:06:44 AM »

Bowled a very few offies tonight at nets then bowled seam rest of night. 1s opening bat thought I was bowling slower balls then began lining me up huge hits! Against 2/3/4s had a bit of joy. Cleaned up the 1s skipper too but he was running down the wicket at me! But the main thing is I enjoyed it and got a good workout. I imagine I wil be very sore tomorrow and Sunday.
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