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Would you invest in a traditional looking helmet with the air liner tech?

Yes
- 50 (87.7%)
No (please state why if possible)
- 7 (12.3%)

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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2018, 02:36:06 PM »

I don't get excited by the look of cricket helmets. Most of them make you look like you should be riding a horse.
But that one looks like a corker Tom. If I was in the market for one, that'd be top of my list to check out. Especially a lightweight version with your whizzy liner and a stem guard.
So yes, I'd definitely be very interested, provided visibility was half decent - or as good as it can be within current regulations.

Thanks for giving us the opportunity to feed back.
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2018, 03:51:46 PM »

Like it.... a lot!
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2018, 04:02:31 PM »

I put no but only because Im more than happy with my current design @Ayrtek Cricket helmet
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »

Like the look, more than normal Ayrtek lids tbh. For me though, ventilation (the lack of) is the main issue. Would love to see honeycomb panels being integrated into the top or sides of a traditional style helmet.
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2018, 04:45:53 PM »

I still want tom to make a 12 vent hole ayrtek!   :D
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2018, 09:13:36 PM »

Little rendered image of what the helmet would look like aesthetically, it includes some design elements that have worked well on the Rad helmet to stop peak flexion and sideways deformation upon impact.

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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2018, 10:02:27 PM »

Really cool!When will these samples be ready....
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2018, 10:08:49 PM »

Need to look at project planning and costs involved to get it set-up property TBH. Lots of areas like Tooling, testing, sample costs etc to work out.

Anyone on here got any experience with crowd funding?
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2018, 08:11:15 AM »

Talk to Foxy Tom... but it shouldn't by hard.
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2018, 08:35:45 AM »

I shall pick his brains over it and update people in due course.

If anyone is keen to back the project personally via crowd funding then that would help fast track it into production.

my initial thinking is similar to Hedkayse project where early backers get to obtain a model at a reduced rate whilst still allowing sufficient funds to be pumped into the tooling/testing and 1st production run to get things moving.

If people had to part with a min of 100 and a max of 250 to back the project do you think this is unreasonable if you got a helmet at the end of it with an RRP above this amount?
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2018, 09:04:13 AM »

Hi Tom,

I love the idea of a traditional looking helmet with all your tech in. Something like the first sketch and cloth covered to look very, very traditional would be amazing and genuinely offer an aesthetic alternative to those who don't dig the current look.

The render looks a bit too much like the current helmets for me but I realise I am in the minority with this and I get that that has positives associated with it too, keeping the brand identity, standing out in a sea of traditional helmets, etc, etc :) I do like that the overall form factor of the render is smaller than the existing helmet which was my only criticism as someone with a small head.

Rad and radder ranges, pushing the envelope of helmet design would be awesome too. I loved your honeycomb sketches and although a risky business decision (costs, more niche market, etc), it is the type of thing that would interest me more personally but I fully appreciate that the world is wider than the CBF :)

Great to hear about all of the new products and paint jobs and all the best going forwards

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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2018, 09:11:21 AM »

Thanks Dan

In my effort to be open and honest the Trad model would be looking to appeal to the mass market where the Rad model (as @KettonJake pointed out of another thread) is more niche is its overall appeal. Pushing the Rad range further whilst from my perspective as a sports equipment designer would be great its not something I think the cricket market is ready to buy into just yet.

The Trad model would be something that Still maintained the design values I know work but aesthetically more like the traditional look people are comfortable with and look for when buying a helmet.

To hit the price points it will need to have 2 variations of liner so that I can bring something to market sub 100 and offer a rising price point with Ti grills/air liner tech etc.
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2018, 09:39:38 AM »

Hi Tom,
I think having a product that you feel had more mass market appeal may enable you to leverage your tech and develop the Rad side of things.. which by its nature will be more niche, hit and miss and maybe even just a fashion spike... but if you have a solid selling standard design it can help massively.

I can't help but think the junior market needs something specific? With your liner tech a helmet thats going to last 2/3 seasons as little Jonnys head starts to grow...

Or how about a bespoke fitting service? I imagine you could somehow use that D30 (orange stuff in the box I bought) in combination with a head mould to make the perfect fitting helmet liner.... I kind of imagine it would  be like when I had to mould my gum shield as a kid...


And like everyone else says... ventilation.

Have thought about a tie up with a training aid provider? Surely now every kid has to wear a helmet (quite right if you ask me... have you seen how many people have been hit in the EngvNZ test) their is a plethora or things that could be "clipped" onto a helmet to support coaching? Or specific grills that would help coach with demonstrating level eye or head movement etc etc...


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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2018, 10:12:07 PM »

Info starting to trickle in re pricing for moulds etc now. Will be doing some research into crowd funding vs early adopter/pre-order options shortly for those who wish too back the project 👍

Ball park figure to get it funded to the stage where its into production is going to be around the 25K mark which will cover the cost of samples for testing.
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Re: CBF Trad v Rad Poll
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2018, 10:36:28 PM »

Indigogo, Kickstarter?
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