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Title: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on December 30, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Hi guys,

I have  NB DC1080 limited that has a very thin crack going through the toe towards the back up to the NB sticker as per attached pics....
Is this a very serious cause of concern? Do I need to somehow super glue it or is adding a toe glue and some fiber tape across the bottom of the bat OK?

(https://gyazo.com/d62d6ebb26f7a7d9b01af493cb1452b2)
(https://gyazo.com/b9db70ba6862a452318bffbc3856162a)
(https://gyazo.com/45ee43059dbbe02af2d1dd792ab966c4)
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: tom line on December 30, 2016, 11:59:17 PM
The pictures haven't come up bud
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on December 31, 2016, 12:07:38 AM
Reuploaded...

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Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: skip1973 on December 31, 2016, 01:08:18 AM
It's a little hard to see but if that crack is showing through the back of the blade then it's cause for concern, I would be returning it to the retailer for inspection.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on December 31, 2016, 03:30:02 AM
Yes it's showing through to where the bottom NB sticker is, just that thin line.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 31, 2016, 10:09:47 AM
Can't tell anything from the pics but if a  crack no matter how small as gone  right through a blade it's a course for concern as it will only get bigger
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: tom line on December 31, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
I agree with what's been said already, dependent how long you've had it best to send pictures or take it back to your retailer and see what they say. If it's outside of warranty then it will need a pretty big repair glueing and rather a lamitoe or doweling I'd imagine
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on December 31, 2016, 09:00:56 PM
Thanks guys I've only had it for 2 months so I'll take it back and see what they'll do... it's the GCCC, hopefully they can get it fixed up...

Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: brokenbat on December 31, 2016, 09:11:44 PM
This is pretty much terminal. They can slow the inevitable, but that bat is gone. The best case is glueing and clamping, but then it will only be good as a net bat, as performance will dwindle.

Here is Julian Millichamp discussing this (9:50 onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_e3AFndzmM&t=528s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_e3AFndzmM&t=528s)
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: GoodLeave on December 31, 2016, 09:34:28 PM
Ah, that's a shame. Being a Limited I bet it was ruddy expensive. Not too bad if it's under warranty.

As a few have said, cracks that go front to back are nearly always terminal. Hope GCCC can sort something for you.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on December 31, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
Yep I've watched that, it seems mine is from all the way from the face of the bat to the back, it just seems to be from the toe to the back...

(https://s27.postimg.org/fkm4gdfgj/bat1.png)

(https://s29.postimg.org/4p7ypmynb/bat.png)

But if it is gone then I dunno what to say, so freaking sad  :( :( :(
Yeah only had it for 2 months and hitting in the nets :(
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: GoodLeave on December 31, 2016, 09:53:08 PM
Few seam marks around the toe. Minor crack in the edge. I'm worried they may say you've under-prepared it. Hopefully not.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 31, 2016, 09:58:29 PM
Few seam marks around the toe. Minor crack in the edge. I'm worried they may say you've under-prepared it. Hopefully not.

The minor crack is in the heartwood, so if you see someone with some common sense they'll know it's naturally more brittle than sapwood.

As for saying it's under prepared because there are a couple of seam marks, that would be a total cop out in my opinion
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: KIPPERS on December 31, 2016, 11:48:47 PM
i just read the headline and think you should see your GP
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: procricket on December 31, 2016, 11:53:03 PM
The minor crack is in the heartwood, so if you see someone with some common sense they'll know it's naturally more brittle than sapwood.

As for saying it's under prepared because there are a couple of seam marks, that would be a total cop out in my opinion

Tough one this in theory does a toe have a warranty as it a false shot unfortunately.(seem marks knocked in or not).

Seen worst fixed and play very well.

Not what you want to hear you may get lucky ,

I hope you do buddy

 
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on January 01, 2017, 06:24:02 AM
Yeah hope so was from a mistimed drive.

It has been knocked in for a long time and I only used old balls in the nets at the beginning, the indentations was from very quick balls hitting the toe.

Hope that there is still hope to get a good resolution from this :/
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on January 03, 2017, 04:35:55 AM
Msged them, they said it will need to be brought in for assessment but generally toes are not covered by warranty :/

The guy suggested getting a hard toe on there? I tried looking info up but can't find any, does anyone know what's this hard toe and how does it affect performance?
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: tom line on January 03, 2017, 06:34:46 AM
Msged them, they said it will need to be brought in for assessment but generally toes are not covered by warranty :/

The guy suggested getting a hard toe on there? I tried looking info up but can't find any, does anyone know what's this hard toe and how does it affect performance?
I think a hard toe is a mixture of epoxy and cane and rubber from an old handle with is rasped and then the raspings mixed with the epoxy and placed on the toe of the bat to set before being sanded flush. Only really good on older bats as the toe compresses a little over time and if that process hasn't happened yet as it's quite new the hard toe can crack when the toe try to compress and take some toe with it
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on January 03, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
If you live in Brisbane, Keith Dudgeons do an excellent composite toe. They guarantee that they will never come off.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: skip1973 on January 03, 2017, 09:20:51 AM
They should attempt repair under warranty, a crack through the blade (even in the toe) has nothing to do with knocking in.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Shinpathy on January 03, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
They said toe damage usually doesn't come under warranty though?
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on January 03, 2017, 10:05:38 AM
Without them having seen the bat, they may be assuming the normal toe damage from not enough prep. I took my NB in with cracks all across the face of the bat after knocking with a mallet only and was told by the young fellow that it was fine and to keep using it. I insisted that they send to NB for assessment and they immediately offered a replacement or refund. You have paid a lot of money for your bat so make sure you get them to send to the manufacturer!
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: skip1973 on January 03, 2017, 10:07:25 AM
They said toe damage usually doesn't come under warranty though?
They will repair if you push (which you shouldn't have to) If they try and get out of it, demand it be sent to manufacturer for inspection.
Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: ppccopener on January 03, 2017, 10:08:28 AM
as others have said these hairline cracks thru the toe are a nightmare, I would be politely requesting a replacement if it was mine....

Title: Re: Very thin crack from bottom the the back of toe
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 03, 2017, 10:12:43 AM
They said toe damage usually doesn't come under warranty though?

Some would say translated they are saying  we can't be bothered to help you
But do as others have suggested and request the is sent back to the manufacturer.