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Title: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Kulli on April 16, 2018, 10:10:56 AM
Binned without a ball being bowled, absolute disgrace for an international venue. I thought they'd just spend a wedge on new drainage?
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: KD4 on April 16, 2018, 10:28:21 AM
Yeah absolutely ridiculous that a bowl hasn't been bowled. Questions need to be asked. All other counties have dealt with the rain fine.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: FattusCattus on April 16, 2018, 11:04:26 AM
This should stir up t'hornets nest!
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Kulli on April 16, 2018, 11:09:01 AM
This should stir up t'hornets nest!

I'm Scottish so have nowt against Yorkshire, just seems to be a bit of a shambles.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: six and out on April 16, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
 :D :D :D :D

https://twitter.com/icelandcricket/status/985847361007161350

Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 16, 2018, 02:00:11 PM
More of a disgrace that these fixtures aren't being played at a sensible time of year.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Alvaro on April 16, 2018, 03:13:50 PM
It'll be the ECB or IPL's fault.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 16, 2018, 03:32:01 PM
It'll be the ECB or IPL's fault.

Yes.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Manormanic on April 16, 2018, 03:44:07 PM
Playing Championship cricket up North in early April....I'll blame t'ECB then 😀

Not that simple really - I know the weather has been awful there for three solid weeks, not certain much could have been done different. And it's more points than we got from Essex at Scarborough last year... 😂
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Manormanic on April 16, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
It'll be the ECB or IPL's fault.

Damn IPL, coming over and stealing our sunshine!!
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: csnew on April 16, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
IPL’s fault! “Taking our players and abandoning our games”. #iplexit
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 16, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
Making people think that money is all that matters?
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: ppccopener on April 16, 2018, 06:29:22 PM
Totally understand why Essex have to hump to be honest, a top test ground should of had play in some of the four days.if you read the newspaper reports there's been no rain in over 30 hours.

If there is nothing wrong with the drainage system as Yorkshire have said, and there's been no rain for that long why has there been no play?

Totally get its not great conditions but neither has it been for anyone else....
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: bigc92 on April 16, 2018, 06:37:55 PM
Very poor from an international ground. every other county game got some play in I believe (correct me if I'm wrong!) do these things get looked into or does it just get forgotten about?
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: six and out on April 16, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
I think it's absolutely scandalous to be honest. You can say all you like about that we shouldn't be playing CC cricket in April and ECB this and T20 that etc.... etc....

At the end if the day Headingley is a Test match ground with new drainage. How have they not bowled a ball in 4 days when it only rained a little bit on day 3.

I know it has chucked it down up north but it's chucked it down everywhere. Just cover the whole ground if you need to!
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Manormanic on April 16, 2018, 07:36:47 PM
My brother lives about a mile from Headingley. He tells me his garden has had snow coverage for five of the last six weeks. I think criticism is similar to blaming Worcestershire when New Road floods.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: liscon12 on April 16, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
There's only so much a groundsman can do, he hasn't the power to change the weather sadly.

From the looks of it after reading the Yorkshire CCC's website it has just been a culmination of factors that have come together to create the situation the club finds itself in;

-worst winter for 30 years (according to York Groundsman)
-high water table
-lack of heat
-persistent rainfall with no large gap in between showers to allow drying and ground recuperation

Yes you could cover the entire ground in covers but that doesn't solve the issue of the ground underneath being saturated to capacity. Hopefully this dry spell we're supposed to have this week will help a few groundsman around the country, if not then the County Championship will continue see teams being bowled out for under 100 in both innings  :(
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: six and out on April 16, 2018, 07:51:51 PM
And I suppose all that weather has been on the Yorkshire side of the Pennines  :o :o
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: smilley792 on April 16, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
Crap happens. Move on.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: bigc92 on April 16, 2018, 09:18:40 PM
There's only so much a groundsman can do, he hasn't the power to change the weather sadly.

From the looks of it after reading the Yorkshire CCC's website it has just been a culmination of factors that have come together to create the situation the club finds itself in;

-worst winter for 30 years (according to York Groundsman)
-high water table
-lack of heat
-persistent rainfall with no large gap in between showers to allow drying and ground recuperation

Yes you could cover the entire ground in covers but that doesn't solve the issue of the ground underneath being saturated to capacity. Hopefully this dry spell we're supposed to have this week will help a few groundsman around the country, if not then the County Championship will continue see teams being bowled out for under 100 in both innings  :(

Believe that you’ll believe anything! Of course Yorkshire will have all the excuses. Everyone else managed and got some results!
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: bigc92 on April 16, 2018, 09:19:12 PM
Crap happens. Move on.

Where do you live in Yorkshire?  ;) haha
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: joeljonno on April 16, 2018, 09:27:54 PM
Permission to wade in here.

There's been so much rain in Yorkshire that pitches are at least 3-4 weeks behind schedule. The whole of the Yorkshire League fixtures for the 21st April were postponed on the 5th.  That's two and a half weeks early and the league have never done that before.

The Heworth CC pitch has some of the best drainage in the league, and even if it is dry and hot for the rest of the week, it is still unlikely to be playable for another week or two.

The water is still coming up from the ground when you walk on it and it hasn't rained since the end of last week.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: liscon12 on April 16, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Believe that you’ll believe anything! Of course Yorkshire will have all the excuses. Everyone else managed and got some results!
I live in Cumbria where it rains every other day (so I know what it's like have fields water logged for weeks even when there's been no rain) and can genuinely believe something like this could happen when the right set of circumstances come together.

Like @smilley792 said, crap happens so let's move on
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: jamferg on April 16, 2018, 10:03:44 PM
Our ground in Sheffield is still covered in standing water from a high water table and copious amounts of rain/snow in last few weeks. Square mowed once but no rolling yet. Outfield impossible to cut. Last season I’d cut outfield twice and it had been hand raked.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Rob580 on April 16, 2018, 10:11:54 PM
None of you Yorkies are bothered because you were going to get stuffed by the mighty Essex if they did get on ;) :D

On a serious note, there is decent drainage at headingley, it's never been an issue before, and if it drained like a sieve it'd turn into a dry, dead nothing pitch. I'm pretty fine with it, given it gives the test grounds some variety.
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Lumsden on April 17, 2018, 02:32:41 AM
It seems to me that it's quite often feast or famine when it comes to rainfall in Yorkshire. I think last spring was particularly dry but the previous year we had a wet March + early April and the first time we got on the square to do any work was 2 weeks before the start of the season.   

   

Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Manormanic on April 17, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
None of you Yorkies are bothered because you were going to get stuffed by the mighty Essex if they did get on ;) :D

Honestly?  I suspect Essex would have been strong favourites.  Aside from the massive advantage of being able to force Yorkshire to bat first, we were missing Root, Bairstow, Willey, Plunkett, Patterson, Fisher, Coad... I was hoping for a call up, honestly I was! :)
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Rob580 on April 17, 2018, 09:41:22 AM
I would tend to agree that Yorkshire have lost out pretty badly from England and a bit form the IPL. 2 for England & 2 for the IPL isn't great, although in fairness if everyone is fit, Willey & Plunkett probably don't get in the team? Thinking you'd have Bresnan, Brooks, Coad a spinner (Carver or Rafique I'm guessing?) and maybe Patterson or Fisher?

Also the loss of Rashid doesn't help you boys, given he can bat in the Top 7 and would have bowled a few overs,
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: Manormanic on April 17, 2018, 04:24:55 PM
If absolutely everyone is available we'd line up;

Lyth
Lees
Pujara/Williamson
Root
Bairstow
Ballance
Rashid
Bresnan
Willey
Coad
Brooks

With Rashid stepping down and the two big guns rested, we seem to have planned on using Lyth and Leaning for any spin required:

Lyth
Lee's
Pujara/Williamson
Ballance
Leaning
Bresnan
Willey
Hodd
Fisher or Plunkett
Coad
Brooks or Fisher
Title: Re: Yorkshire vs Essex
Post by: jamesisapayne on April 17, 2018, 06:31:35 PM
What could they seriously have done. You can have the best drainage going but if it rods it down for days on end there's not a lot you can do.

Although Somerset aren't playing until Fri if they had been I doubt they would have seen any play at all too.