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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: InternalTraining on May 16, 2018, 02:52:15 PM

Title: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: InternalTraining on May 16, 2018, 02:52:15 PM
Folks, Have you ever switched from heavier bats to lighter bats? Or, have you knocked a lighter bat in the nets but used a heavier bat in the matches? How was your experience? Was your timing altered? Did you settle for the lighter bat?

Here is my dilemma: I use a 2-11+ bat and it is a beauty. I have an amazing 2-9 bat that I'd like to prepare by using in the nets. I am afraid that it might drastically alter my timing. The 2-9 is trampoline of a bat! It was hand-picked by a Test opener for his personal use and is made by Tim Keeley. This bat is not even used or malleted but the ping is incredible. I want to prep the bat as my lighter bat option for faster pitches (even astroturf pitches have variations).
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: stevat on May 16, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
I remember a team-mate of mine years ago that bought a very heavy bat (3lb+) in a cheap grade, may even have been Kashmir willow, to literally just shadow bat with in practice to attempt to improve his bat speed.  He wouldn't ever use it when facing a ball so as not to throw off his timing.  That said, cricketers are a superstitious bunch, there probably isn't a great deal of scientific proof positive or negative that may help you - merely conjecture and guesswork or experience.
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 16, 2018, 03:21:45 PM
One thing for sure my matchstick bats give me the opportunity to bat long and better bat speed.
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 16, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
Personally i reckon as long as you don't go up in weight beyond what you can handle , dead weight wise , then the rest is just a matter of getting used to it. People often worry about reduced power when going down in weight ......but you say this keeley beast is a real pinger - so no worries . Just net with it until you are used to it then play with it .
(I have always been a 2.7 /2.8 guy , but since getting my xp80s , which are 2.10-2.11 i have adjusted. When i go from using one of my heavier sticks down to something lighter I dont find it a problem because im now used to the whole weight range from 2.7-2.11. Give  me one of my 2.11s and then force me to swap to 2.7 mid innings/net and i reckon id adjust within an over .....i think you're unecessarily over worrrying )
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Canners on May 16, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
I think itís rude you not showing pics of this keeley wonder bat
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: InternalTraining on May 16, 2018, 03:50:14 PM
^ I tried. I think I was imagur but couldn't load the pics. :D

How do I easily load pictures?
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: InternalTraining on May 16, 2018, 03:53:02 PM
When i go from using one of my heavier sticks down to something lighter I dont find it a problem because im now used to the whole weight range from 2.7-2.11. Give  me one of my 2.11s and then force me to swap to 2.7 mid innings/net and i reckon id adjust within an over .....i think you're unecessarily over worrrying )

That is a great observation. Basically, it is about building muscle memory for a range of weights rather than a single weight.

Majority of the time I use my 2-11. I can use 2-10 well, and am able to go up to 2-13 (against quicks, I am little slow with a 2-13 Amplus, also Keeley made. :) ).
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: JK Lewis on May 16, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
A couple of years ago I bought a 2lb 7 bat. I really can't remember why to be honest, it made no sense. The bat looked nice enough but it was rubbish to use, shot value pretty much zero. I could hardly hit the ball off the square. Played one decent knock with it, timing the ball sweet but ended up scoring 12 off 19 overs. Dusty corner of the garage after that, total waste of money.
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: springbok45 on May 16, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
There's the old anecdote from Nasser Hussain about using a lighter bat in the nets and then a heavier one come game day when the adrenaline is flowing to keep your timing in sync
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Ajdal on May 16, 2018, 05:03:29 PM
Interested in knowing why this Test opener who chose this bat for personal use ended up giving it to you
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on May 16, 2018, 05:12:17 PM
2oz really isnít very much pick up wise you may notice a difference but my bats range from 2.9 to 2.11 and personally I donít find much difference, I do stick to one bat though nets and matches for a while and I wouldnít bet with a 2.9 that week and use a 2.11 come match days.
I used to chop and change every week but it didnít do me any good that way but now I may use a bat for a month then another for a month and the weight and even if same weight pick ups vary so as I say net and match with the same bat for a while and I promise it will be more in your head than in actual weight or timing etc
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Buzz on May 16, 2018, 05:31:59 PM
Just use the thing.
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 16, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
If it's "not even used or malleted" how do you know it's a it's a trampoline of a bat with incredible ping?
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: InternalTraining on May 16, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
By bouncing a ball on it.
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: procricket on May 16, 2018, 07:56:22 PM

Stop thinking start hitting

Your dilemma is your mind at times just stop and hit the thing

Use it
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 17, 2018, 08:47:55 AM
That is a great observation. Basically, it is about building muscle memory for a range of weights rather than a single weight.

Majority of the time I use my 2-11. I can use 2-10 well, and am able to go up to 2-13 (against quicks, I am little slow with a 2-13 Amplus, also Keeley made. :) ).


Yeah , building muscle memory for the range of weights -exactly .
When i watch video footage of my bowling machine sessions i now find i do all the little adjustments automatically.  Ie / i dont have to consciously think about raising my backlift a touch more for lighter bats or lowering it slightly for the heavier ones . Also , i like to have my hands slightly further apart on the handle for the heavier bats and now  make that adjustment without thinking about it.......i think my muscles are remembering!   :D :D
Title: Re: Your Experiences Of Using Lighter Bats
Post by: SD on May 17, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
Personally, I have always found adjusting the timing of my shots according to the pace of the wicket to be more of a challenge than adjustments dictated by the weight of the bat that i am using.