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Title: Pitch fixing / spot fixing
Post by: csnew on May 26, 2018, 07:39:29 AM
It appears the groundsman in Galle has been caught trying to pitch tamper on Englandís tour of Sri Lanka this winter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-5773343/Plot-fix-Englands-Test-against-Sri-Lanka-exposed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-5773343/Plot-fix-Englands-Test-against-Sri-Lanka-exposed.html)
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Number4 on May 26, 2018, 11:38:37 PM
This is the exact same story I just read about the Australian 2016 Tour. Word for word pretty much
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Number4 on May 26, 2018, 11:40:02 PM
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/05/26/10/12/cricket-rocked-by-match-fixing-australia-vs-srti-lanka-galle-2016
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Buzz on May 27, 2018, 05:57:13 AM
Has the groundsman seen us bat? Not sure much doctoring required...
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Manormanic on May 27, 2018, 06:36:28 AM
Has the groundsman seen us bat? Not sure much doctoring required...

Dunno.  If they want tohe game to end on the fourth day, they'd have to prepare an absolute road!  :D
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: csnew on May 27, 2018, 10:45:13 AM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23620449/spot-fixing-allegations-made-one%C2%A0australia-test-ca-requests-evidence (http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23620449/spot-fixing-allegations-made-one%C2%A0australia-test-ca-requests-evidence)

The Aussies getting accused of spot fixing too now.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 27, 2018, 08:31:20 PM
Link below is to the Al Jazeera match fixing undercover documentary that everyone is talking about. I haven't watched it all as it's 55 mins long. But the start certainly shows the undercover nature of it.

https://youtu.be/uYlk4izYVmw
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 27, 2018, 09:28:49 PM
Link below is to the Al Jazeera match fixing undercover documentary that everyone is talking about. I haven't watched it all as it's 55 mins long. But the start certainly shows the undercover nature of it.

https://youtu.be/uYlk4izYVmw

I have now watched the whole thing and OMG they basically say without naming names that 3 England players fixed during the Chenni test and 2 Australia players fixed during the Ranchi test. Over to you ICC.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 28, 2018, 07:01:21 AM
I call b.s on al jazeera !
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 07:06:18 AM
I call b.s on al jazeera !

Yes i agree more than likely but it is quite an allegation to make!
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: skip1973 on May 28, 2018, 07:17:06 AM
They really shouldn't be allowed to put this twaddle out there if they won't put their money where their mouth is and name names.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ppccopener on May 28, 2018, 07:41:39 AM
The problem is for the 3 England players and 2 Aussies there will now be a clamour to find out there identity which is hugely unfair as there is no evidence.

I don't believe myself any of these players are involved in fixing so the claims are far fetched and just named as a boast during negotiations with journalist.

I'm less sure about the pitch in Galle being doctored, there could be something in that, but again a lot of claims about what they could and couldn't do to the pitch....
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: csnew on May 28, 2018, 07:45:59 AM
England and Australia struggled to stay in against the spinners let alone decide what rate to score at.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: billyb on May 28, 2018, 08:05:58 AM
There were a few new faces on that tour whom you might consider more vulnerable than others. The only interesting thing in the Chennai test was Moeen's 140 really.

Cook, Root, Moeen, Anderson, Bairstow, Broad, Stokes, Woakes, Ansari, Batty, Jennings, Hameed, Ball, Ballance, Buttler, Dawson, Duckett, Rashid, Finn.

Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 09:05:09 AM
The problem is for the 3 England players and 2 Aussies there will now be a clamour to find out there identity which is hugely unfair as there is no evidence.

I don't believe myself any of these players are involved in fixing so the claims are far fetched and just named as a boast during negotiations with journalist.

I'm less sure about the pitch in Galle being doctored, there could be something in that, but again a lot of claims about what they could and couldn't do to the pitch....

Like you say it is a problem now the allegations have been made and the now the attention it brings even if it is a load of rubbish.

It is actually quite easy to work out who the are accusing. Both supposed fixes happened on day 1 of each test when England and Australia were batting. And in both cases only the top 6 batted on that day.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 28, 2018, 10:28:17 AM
I call b.s on al jazeera !

Why? Not likely to be any more or less accurate than most other media outlets.

I watched the documentary this morning and the evidence is compelling and includes first hand evidence of recent first class and international players discussing fixing matches openly on camera.

The predictions of runs scored (below a certain score) in a 10-over session as well as the number of runs off the final over of that 10 over session (India v England - Chennai) with England batting came true.

Certain England players who were playing in that test have had fairly strange ends to their test & first class careers and some very close links to the IPL match-fixing circus.

To clarify, I have no idea whether it is or isn't true but certainly cannot be dismissed simply because it's an Al Jazeera documentary.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 11:24:52 AM
Why? Not likely to be any more or less accurate than most other media outlets.

I watched the documentary this morning and the evidence is compelling and includes first hand evidence of recent first class and international players discussing fixing matches openly on camera.

The predictions of runs scored (below a certain score) in a 10-over session as well as the number of runs off the final over of that 10 over session (India v England - Chennai) with England batting came true.

Certain England players who were playing in that test have had fairly strange ends to their test & first class careers and some very close links to the IPL match-fixing circus.

To clarify, I have no idea whether it is or isn't true but certainly cannot be dismissed simply because it's an Al Jazeera documentary.

As I said in a previous post if you think about the actual allegations they make in the documentary ... the fix happened on day 1 of the test and was a session bet etc...

So then look at the actual facts from the match... only Cook, Jennings, Root, Mo, Bairstow and Stokes batted on Day 1.

Stokes only came in in over 82 so impossible to complete a 10 over session bet. Jennings only lasted 5 overs so again impossible to complete a fix. Consider Mo's religious beliefs and I think you can rule him out.

So that leaves the other 3 and that is one hell of an accusation... including the England captain at the time, the curremt England captain.

I really can't believe any of it.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 28, 2018, 11:25:06 AM
Why? Not likely to be any more or less accurate than most other media outlets.

I watched the documentary this morning and the evidence is compelling and includes first hand evidence of recent first class and international players discussing fixing matches openly on camera.

The predictions of runs scored (below a certain score) in a 10-over session as well as the number of runs off the final over of that 10 over session (India v England - Chennai) with England batting came true.

Certain England players who were playing in that test have had fairly strange ends to their test & first class careers and some very close links to the IPL match-fixing circus.

To clarify, I have no idea whether it is or isn't true but certainly cannot be dismissed simply because it's an Al Jazeera documentary.




Im not dismissing it due to which media organisation made the allegations/documentary. ......im dismissing it due to absolute lack of evidence , unwillingness to provide c.a or e.c.b with any evidence , and because I know a rat (b.s story) when I smell one .
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on May 28, 2018, 11:57:29 AM
As I said in a previous post if you think about the actual allegations they make in the documentary ... the fix happened on day 1 of the test and was a session bet etc...

So then look at the actual facts from the match... only Cook, Jennings, Root, Mo, Bairstow and Stokes batted on Day 1.

Stokes only came in in over 82 so impossible to complete a 10 over session bet. Jennings only lasted 5 overs so again impossible to complete a fix. Consider Mo's religious beliefs and I think you can rule him out.

So that leaves the other 3 and that is one hell of an accusation... including the England captain at the time, the curremt England captain.

I really can't believe any of it.

You canít write someone off due to their religion.. itís not like people of similar faith havenít spot fixed.. oh wait ... money is money and money talks. Still, every allegation should be investigated properly and anyone found in any way wrong, dealt with severely.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
You canít write someone off due to their religion.. itís not like people of similar faith havenít spot fixed.. oh wait ... money is money and money talks. Still, every allegation should be investigated properly and anyone found in any way wrong, dealt with severely.

Not saying it shouldn't be investigated and I am sure the ICC will do everything they can do. But when you hear that Al Jazeera won't hand over the unedited version for evidence to the ICC you have to wonder what's going on.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 28, 2018, 01:02:47 PM
Not saying it shouldn't be investigated and I am sure the ICC will do everything they can do. But when you hear that Al Jazeera won't hand over the unedited version for evidence to the ICC you have to wonder what's going on.


Al Jazeera say in the doco they will hand over all evidence /unedited version . C.a and e.c.b say al jazeera have not complied with numerous requests for said evidence . Either one entity is wrong and/or lying , or two entities are wrong and/or lying. Either way , something is wrong .
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mdg20 on May 28, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
The documentary showed blurred out footage that the experts appeared to be viewing. Do we think that that was the actual footage of the period of play Al Jazeera are alleging is fixed and of the players they are implying were involved? If so its very easy to work out 2 of of English players and 1 of the Aussies based on kit.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 28, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
The documentary showed blurred out footage that the experts appeared to be viewing. Do we think that that was the actual footage of the period of play Al Jazeera are alleging is fixed and of the players they are implying were involved? If so its very easy to work out 2 of of English players and 1 of the Aussies based on kit.


Funny you mention that as I'm just playing back from 44.00 -44.45 of the doco as i read this . Yes , i think it was blurred footage of the actual period of play . And yes , i could work out players based on the kit , and handedness . Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
The documentary showed blurred out footage that the experts appeared to be viewing. Do we think that that was the actual footage of the period of play Al Jazeera are alleging is fixed and of the players they are implying were involved? If so its very easy to work out 2 of of English players and 1 of the Aussies based on kit.

I did think this as well but then came to the conclusion that surely they wouldn't be that foolish because it is very easy for any cricket enthusiast to work out who it is.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mdg20 on May 28, 2018, 01:38:17 PM
I did think this as well but then came to the conclusion that surely they wouldn't be that foolish because it is very easy for any cricket enthusiast to work out who it is.

Surely it works in their favour for the players to be worked out whilst they appear to have done the diligent thing and not revealed it. It also demonstrates within the documentary that they do have "evidence" to back these claims up.
Having looked at the scorecard the Aussie one matches exactly the period of play they were talking about.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Big Mac on May 28, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
Surely it works in their favour for the players to be worked out whilst they appear to have done the diligent thing and not revealed it. It also demonstrates within the documentary that they do have "evidence" to back these claims up.
Having looked at the scorecard the Aussie one matches exactly the period of play they were talking about.

If the players are innocent and their identities are worked out via that blurry footage then it potentially opens up Al Jazeera for legal action.

I don't believe Al Jazeera are stupid, so that means that either they used any old footage and blurred it out or they are absolutely, 100% certain of the players guilt and they have the evidence to back it up.

I would lean towards the former scenario myself.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 28, 2018, 02:30:28 PM
As I said in a previous post if you think about the actual allegations they make in the documentary ... the fix happened on day 1 of the test and was a session bet etc...

So then look at the actual facts from the match... only Cook, Jennings, Root, Mo, Bairstow and Stokes batted on Day 1.

Stokes only came in in over 82 so impossible to complete a 10 over session bet. Jennings only lasted 5 overs so again impossible to complete a fix. Consider Mo's religious beliefs and I think you can rule him out.

So that leaves the other 3 and that is one hell of an accusation... including the England captain at the time, the curremt England captain.

I really can't believe any of it.

You're ruling out Mo because of his religion...? Not sure that religion has anything to do with match fixing, I reckon Cronje would have considered himself christian and I'm pretty sure Mohammed Amir is a muslim...

From the little I know of Mo I would be surprised also but because he seems like a thoroughly decent chap and not what big book he prefers.

That said, cronje was a bit of a shock also...


Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 28, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
The problem is for the 3 England players and 2 Aussies there will now be a clamour to find out there identity which is hugely unfair as there is no evidence.

I don't believe myself any of these players are involved in fixing so the claims are far fetched and just named as a boast during negotiations with journalist.

I'm less sure about the pitch in Galle being doctored, there could be something in that, but again a lot of claims about what they could and couldn't do to the pitch....

Have you watched it? They are talking on hidden camera with the head groundsman at galle who is clearly willing to doctor pitches and explains how. The test they were talking about (agains australia if I remember correctly) lasted 2.5 days and questions were asked at the time in western press about whether the pitch was doctored.

https://www.wisden.com/stories/archive/news/documentary-implicates-sri-lanka-curator-fixing-scandal (https://www.wisden.com/stories/archive/news/documentary-implicates-sri-lanka-curator-fixing-scandal)
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: billyb on May 28, 2018, 02:40:31 PM
The video seems to implicate Moeen and Cook or Bairstow? From the videos. But they could just be random inserts of the team.
Moeen is the obvious one- I think the footage of Cook/Bairstow has to be flipped, because Bairstow didn't use that bat in the series. So it looks like Cook?
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ppccopener on May 28, 2018, 04:00:54 PM
You are correct Matt, religion has nothing to do with it
Cronjie was a deeply religious man.

Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: six and out on May 28, 2018, 04:01:51 PM
You're ruling out Mo because of his religion...? Not sure that religion has anything to do with match fixing, I reckon Cronje would have considered himself christian and I'm pretty sure Mohammed Amir is a muslim...

From the little I know of Mo I would be surprised also but because he seems like a thoroughly decent chap and not what big book he prefers.

That said, cronje was a bit of a shock also...

It is a fair point that there have been Muslims that have been  caught match fixing but they aren't anything like Mo from what I have heard from him speaking etc...
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: csnew on May 28, 2018, 06:42:17 PM
It is a fair point that there have been Muslims that have been  caught match fixing but they aren't anything like Mo from what I have heard from him speaking etc...

Thought actions speak louder than words. Also heard salman butt and Asif use a few ďreligious termsĒ in their interviews to claim they were innocent. Find it unbelievable to rule someone out because theyíre  religious. Did make me chuckle
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ad2606 on May 29, 2018, 08:16:14 AM
The video seems to implicate Moeen and Cook or Bairstow? From the videos. But they could just be random inserts of the team.
Moeen is the obvious one- I think the footage of Cook/Bairstow has to be flipped, because Bairstow didn't use that bat in the series. So it looks like Cook?
It would be shocking whoever was revealed but cant see Cook being into anything even remotely shady he's the Ned Flanders of cricket :)
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 29, 2018, 09:12:55 AM
Interesting comments from Vaughan who has watched the documentary basically saying that if this was another country then we would be jumping up and down and demanding immediate action.

Obviously though as they are our guys they must be innocent....

I have no idea whether there is or isn't any truth in any of it but to dismiss it because we think that our players are nice blokes or have strong beliefs in an invisible man are naive to say the least.

I grew up watching Jim'll fix it every saturday night, listened to Blair tell us we needed to go to war as we were going to be massacred with WMD's and saw the main stream media, police and government cover-up the Hillsborough fiasco for 20 years (this list could go on). I generally don't believe much of what I see and try to form my own opinions based on evidence.

You would think that the English players are paid enough that they would be less likely to be enticed by cash than poorer cricketing nations - the sums being talked about weren't vast in pro-sport terms, 50k here or there. Current England players are better advised and educated that many of those who have been dragged into match fixing. Amir for example was young, poor, stupid, naive and very vulnerable - England players don't really fit this description. If I wanted to get an england player to do something dodgy I would think bribery would be an option - set up some cameras and get a few compromising videos of married players with hookers etc. Or perhaps even darker threats to family members etc. The people involved according to the documentary are some of the worlds most dangerous and violent mafia members so nothing would be off the table I guess and I doubt they take no for an answer.

Is it hard to believe that a batsman wouldn't deliberately score slowly for a brief period if time in a test match when we know that the Australian Vice Captain was willing and able to encourage a young team member to take sand paper onto the field of play to deliberately alter the condition of the match ball?

If a senior player in a top test playing nation is willing to do this is it that hard to believe that someone would potentially ask a player to bat a bit slower than normal for 10 overs?
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ad2606 on May 29, 2018, 09:39:50 AM
I don't know how they manage it.....im happy just to have managed to bat for 10 overs  :( :) :D
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: tushar sehgal on May 29, 2018, 11:50:03 AM
Did anyone listen to Root's statement? He says: "I am told to strongly deny it"

Shouldn't you deny it anyways? why do you need to be told and even if told why say it like that? I know if this was Pakistan or India everyone here would have assumed players guilty already. Which they probably would be, most of them can't be trusted and I am still not over the IPL Spot fixing a few years ago and player's names being protected  :(
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ppccopener on May 29, 2018, 12:07:47 PM
Root doesnít know what to say or what to do on or off the field he is lacking in captaincy experience and much else
I wouldnít read anything into what he has said

Even with the previous match fixing shocks I would be staggered if the allegations have any substance

There is always a doubt thou isnít there?
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ad2606 on May 29, 2018, 02:59:58 PM
Root doesnít know what to say or what to do on or off the field he is lacking in captaincy experience and much else
I wouldnít read anything into what he has said

Even with the previous match fixing shocks I would be staggered if the allegations have any substance

There is always a doubt thou isnít there?
It's a shame now that with the money in the modern game and some of the recent actions of players that it creates that doubt rather than being able to just dismiss it as crap :/
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: edge on May 29, 2018, 03:33:42 PM
It'll be looked into properly by the ICC... who'll find that it's absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ppccopener on May 29, 2018, 03:50:36 PM
It's a shame now that with the money in the modern game and some of the recent actions of players that it creates that doubt rather than being able to just dismiss it as crap :/

Yes absolutely agree.my gut feeling is thereís no truth and no evidence other than what the match fixers say-regarding england players and Aussie players...

It has to be investigated of course, just because itís english players it should not be ignored

Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 29, 2018, 03:55:11 PM
It'll be looked into properly by the ICC... who'll find that it's absolute nonsense.

All the accusations in the documentary or just the ones that involve england players?
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: edge on May 29, 2018, 04:47:50 PM
All the accusations in the documentary or just the ones that involve england players?
The Australians also, not sure I mentioned any England players? If there was any substance the doc would have named the players and set all the evidence out properly, not witheld all the key information and claimed they'll hand it over later. Remember the News of the World spot fixing sting? They set it up, made sure they had the evidence and then named names and milked the headlines immediately. Maybe I'll eat my words when this all comes out in the wash, but it sure sounds like a load of balls.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ad2606 on May 29, 2018, 04:54:21 PM
The Australians also, not sure I mentioned any England players? If there was any substance the doc would have named the players and set all the evidence out properly, not witheld all the key information and claimed they'll hand it over later. Remember the News of the World spot fixing sting? They set it up, made sure they had the evidence and then named names and milked the headlines immediately. Maybe I'll eat my words when this all comes out in the wash, but it sure sounds like a load of balls.
Hope you're right, am sure it would have been splashed all over every single newspaper by now if there was evidence.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: csnew on May 29, 2018, 04:54:46 PM
It canít be true - England and Australian players just donít fix
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 29, 2018, 05:23:30 PM
The Australians also, not sure I mentioned any England players? If there was any substance the doc would have named the players and set all the evidence out properly, not witheld all the key information and claimed they'll hand it over later. Remember the News of the World spot fixing sting? They set it up, made sure they had the evidence and then named names and milked the headlines immediately. Maybe I'll eat my words when this all comes out in the wash, but it sure sounds like a load of balls.

Yes, it's totally inconceivable that the Australian test team could be involved in a clandestine organised cheating operation.....
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 29, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
It would be shocking whoever was revealed but cant see Cook being into anything even remotely shady he's the Ned Flanders of cricket :)


Darn diddly diddly darn diddly darn darn diddly biddly darn diddly darn darn biddly iddly diddly darn right he is !  :D
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: ad2606 on May 29, 2018, 07:09:30 PM

Darn diddly diddly darn diddly darn darn diddly biddly darn diddly darn darn biddly iddly diddly darn right he is !  :D
Hahaha theres no possible way of reading that without hearing the voice of ned aswell!!
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: edge on May 29, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Yes, it's totally inconceivable that the Australian test team could be involved in a clandestine organised cheating operation.....
Ball tampering (which pretty much every international cricket side does to some degree) is not the same as taking money from bookies to underperform, is it now.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 29, 2018, 08:25:36 PM
Ball tampering (which pretty much every international cricket side does to some degree) is not the same as taking money from bookies to underperform, is it now.

Obviously not the same but spot fixers would argue that influencing a 10-over session (presumably only to score 15-10 runs under par in that period only) in a match that should last 5 days makes very little difference to the outcome of a match, whereas ball doctoring resulting in taking a cluster of quick wickets could determine a match outcome.

Which is morally worse - fleecing a few bookies and having very little impact on match outcome or blatantly cheating to gain an unfair match advantage.

That wasn't really my point though, rather highlighting that a few months ago the idea that Warner would have a pre-planned and clandestine meeting with a junior player where he would demonstrate how to, and then convince him to take sandpaper onto the field to doctor the ball would have seemed laughable.

Th situation with a rogue senior player (Warner) using a naive and inexperienced player to cheat is a similar modus operandi to many of the match fixing scandals - Cronje, Cairns (allegedly), Butt etc all similar.

I'm not suggesting for a second that Warner has ever been involved in spot fixing but as an example I'd suggest that if he felt inclined that he would have enough influence over an idiot like Bancroft to convince him to bat slowly for 30 minutes.

I really don't think it's beyond any realm of possibility that there is an element of truth in it. There might not be and I hope there isn't, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing / spot fixing
Post by: Sivlar13 on May 31, 2018, 08:46:38 AM
https://youtu.be/uYlk4izYVmw

Interesting watch this - of course could be BS but the evidence is rather damning if true.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing / spot fixing
Post by: edge on May 31, 2018, 11:51:47 AM
@mattbatt ask Brett Lee and the 05 Aussie team if 15-10 runs makes very little difference. Of course it does, the whole point of cricket is the team with more runs wins!

As for it seeming laughable that the Aussies would organise ball tampering, really? The England team thought they were doing it, SA thought they were doing it, the TV commentators and cameramen thought they were doing it... noone was surprised, only at how stupidly obvious they got when desperate. Mainly because everyone does it to some degree, England have been very good at it the past few years. Which is worse? Take a look at the punishments - 5 runs for ball tampering, 5+ years for spot fixing.
Title: Re: Pitch fixing / spot fixing
Post by: mattbatt on May 31, 2018, 12:31:04 PM
The fact that you go back to 2005 for that shows how rarely  that 15 runs makes a difference in test cricket.

Title: Re: Pitch fixing / spot fixing
Post by: Biggie Smalls on May 31, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
https://youtu.be/uYlk4izYVmw

Interesting watch this - of course could be BS but the evidence is rather damning if true.




.......page 1 of this thread onwards has basically been about this . :D