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Title: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 10, 2019, 08:17:12 PM
Can anyone possibly tell by looking at these pictures who the bat manufacturer could be?

(https://i.imgur.com/dQFLNKf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iBsX5vv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k4rnIPd.jpg)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Yorkershire on September 10, 2019, 08:42:00 PM
I'm curious too...

I have a 'pro bat' that belonged to one of the current ashes teams  ;) and it looks very similar... I've been trying to work out who made it...

It had SF labels on... hmmm.....


It was
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Churchy1989 on September 10, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Shoulders look like someone has tried to copy Keeley but top of handle looks strange, the centre circle...
Maybe Indian SS...
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 10, 2019, 08:54:12 PM
I had an SF with those shoulders and a similar "knob" on the top of the handle.

It wasn't sold as an SF, but there was a nail in the handle and it was stamped with WSStanfordCricket under the binding.

I'll have a quick Hunts and see if I have any pictures of said bat...
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: DorsetDan on September 10, 2019, 08:54:52 PM
Keeley made bat where the player provided their own pak/ ind handle? Or is it an off the shelf bat?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: i12breakfree on September 10, 2019, 09:00:52 PM
TK
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 10, 2019, 09:03:27 PM
TK

Unless you have a strong reason to believe so, I think you were misled by the same seller
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 10, 2019, 09:09:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fuN4ORel.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OhSiX2Nl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yfaf6Njl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h1B2oE0l.jpg)

Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: i12breakfree on September 10, 2019, 09:29:10 PM
The nail is the trade mark
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: i12breakfree on September 10, 2019, 09:31:36 PM
Unless you have a strong reason to believe so, I think you were misled by the same seller

The carpet in first pics seems to be phantom cricket.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: alexevo94 on September 10, 2019, 09:32:12 PM
Who did you buy it from?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 10, 2019, 09:42:17 PM
Who did you buy it from?

Ben
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 10, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
The carpet in first pics seems to be phantom cricket.

Nope.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: InternalTraining on September 10, 2019, 10:14:45 PM
Twine used in TK bats is different compared to other bat makers. I had a bat rehandled by them recently and also own several.

Compare it to the other TKs you own.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: LEACHY48 on September 10, 2019, 10:28:43 PM
I'd suggest it's not a TK on first look
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Sivlar13 on September 10, 2019, 10:59:02 PM
Looks TK to me - twine is very much the TK style as are the shoulders, albeit with a very slight style difference.

Iíve had the occasional keeley handle like this where it is not the 12 cane inserts.

Also had bats off Ben before and know that that will be an outrageously good stick!
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 10, 2019, 11:24:57 PM
Looks TK to me - twine is very much the TK style as are the shoulders, albeit with a very slight style difference.

Iíve had the occasional keeley handle like this where it is not the 12 cane inserts.

Also had bats off Ben before and know that that will be an outrageously good stick!

Do you have any bats with this sort of handle inserts that were surely Keeley made.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: InternalTraining on September 10, 2019, 11:36:44 PM
Who is "Ben"?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Canners on September 10, 2019, 11:40:51 PM
Who is "Ben"?

Ben Keeley, the long lost brother 😱

Sorry I shouldnít joke

I really donít think thatís a Keeley, shoulders and handle donít fit the bill for me
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: InternalTraining on September 11, 2019, 02:30:45 AM
^ Would've been funny if you had had said "ben no suke".

Ok. You are cool and funny.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 11, 2019, 03:08:20 PM
Here is the shoulders and handle top from a Keeley bat. So donít quite look the same to me but are similar.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9QPDCbMB/0178-E948-4-E97-4-DE2-977-B-0-B095430-F755.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dh1s98G7)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVH3b4xy/B4-FCCA6-E-CA86-46-C0-9-B4-C-88-A12-EF4-C641.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLJthM1j)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 09:19:23 PM
Mystery solved guys. Was just browsing the ebay/bargain spots thread on here and saw this :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHASE-FLC-Pro-Cricket-Bat-2019/202745421192?hash=item2f34919d88:g:1ZcAAOSwHwddP0DX (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHASE-FLC-Pro-Cricket-Bat-2019/202745421192?hash=item2f34919d88:g:1ZcAAOSwHwddP0DX)

So someone bought it off ebay, removed the stickers, and sold it to me as a Joe Root Keeley reject for 275.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: DorsetDan on September 13, 2019, 09:40:01 PM
Are you saying you think yours is a Chase or that that Chase FLC listing is also fake?

Chase don’t do shoulders or handles like yours so I’m guessing that “Chase” is also fake??? Looking again the toe and profile aren’t quite right???

No way your bat was ever going to be a Root reject for that kind of size and shape unfortunately
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 09:52:44 PM
Are you saying you think yours is a Chase or that that Chase FLC listing is also fake?

Chase donít do shoulders or handles like yours so Iím guessing that ďChaseĒ is also fake??? Looking again the toe and profile arenít quite right???

No way your bat was ever going to be a Root reject for that kind of size and shape unfortunately

I'm saying that the Chase bat on ebay is the same bat in this thread. Mr. Ben bought it off ebay, removed the stickers and sold it to me saying it's a keeley that was rejected by Root
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 10:08:55 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/WwOlkdA
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: jonny77 on September 13, 2019, 10:25:45 PM
Nice looking bat tho.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 10:42:31 PM
Nice looking bat tho.

Fantastic bat if Iím being honest. Very soft piece of willow, great press on it as well
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: ppccopener on September 13, 2019, 10:43:04 PM
The eBay ad is current thou, if itís your bat who is selling it on Ebay? Apologies if Iíve missed the point.

I happen to be looking at a chase bat in my living room and I think Dan Dorset is right, it donít look like a chase toe or shoulders.

So..so far itís been stickered up as a Keeley when it may well not be(itís not a Keeley) now stickered up as a chase, currently on  eBay and it may not be that either

 :)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 10:55:21 PM
The chase bat on ebay and the unstickered bat in this post are the same. It was sold to me as a Keeley pro bat(unstickered), it obviously isnít. The ebay seller didnít claim it to be a tk, the next buyer did, who removed the stickers. Look at the album Iíve shared.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 13, 2019, 10:59:33 PM
So where did the Chase stickers come from?
I can't be the only one who's confused here...

Can you put pictures of the front and back of the knob of the handle please?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 11:13:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qv1MdJ3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y5XOfQa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BrCg5xB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e6KC9Yu.jpg)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 13, 2019, 11:20:13 PM
Let me clarify lol:

1. I buy an unstickered bat from Ben that he told me was a Keeley made Root reject.
2. Upon receiving I notice the handle inserts are not what Iíve seen on keeley bats so i post on cbf to get opinion.
3. Casual strolling on CBF leads me to the ebay thread where a chase is listed. I notice it looks exactly like the bat i just bought minus the stickers.
4. I realize Ben bought this bat off ebay, removed the stickers and made a fool out of me by selling it to me as a Root TK reject.

This ebay listing has probably not been updated by the original seller(not Ben). Hope this clears everything lol
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: KW9221 on September 13, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Topic title should be changed to ďCurious Case of Ebay BatĒ..
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: alexevo94 on September 13, 2019, 11:47:43 PM
Who is Ben? And why did you trust his word?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 14, 2019, 12:01:19 AM
Who is Ben? And why did you trust his word?

BatDoctorBristol on insta. He fixes bats for pros. This is not the only bat Iíve purchased from him. Between me and a friend we bought 5-6. We purchased them over a couple of months. I only got them recently as Iím outside of the UK and my friend brought them with him a few days ago. Every single one of them has a made-up story attached to it and I have proof for each lie lol. I kinda wanna post everything here but whatís the point.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: dt-second-hand-cricket on September 14, 2019, 06:52:21 AM
there is a very similar looking SF bat he repaired for a guy in bristol with a very similar ebay/instagram account:
https://www.pictame.com/media/2126442058603814078_5389824146 (https://www.pictame.com/media/2126442058603814078_5389824146)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: jonny77 on September 14, 2019, 08:00:21 AM
So this is actually an SF bat, which was restickered as a Chase (which is still listed on Ebay) but then sold to you plain as a Root/Pro bat reject?  :(

All very confusing stuff! Regardless of whether its a good bat or not, I'd be gutted at paying 275 for a refurbished SF! This is why the whole 'Pro bat' thing is garbage in my opinion. 275 or thereabouts buys you a brand new stick from lots of very good batmakers, made to your specs and which will perform as good as anything.....sharpie or no sharpie!  :D
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: DorsetDan on September 14, 2019, 08:13:10 AM
All very weird. Why is the Danish player still selling an apparent SF as a Chase if he doesn’t even have the bat??? Is that what you are saying Adjal? Would be bad for him to be claiming this is a Chase and using 6 sixes as credibility and bad/ weird to be listing a bat he doesn’t have (if this is all the case of course). Presumably this would have been who the batdoc got it from or vice versa

https://mobile.twitter.com/SixSixesCricket/status/1136969017124696066
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 14, 2019, 08:41:31 AM
This is not an SF bat. Itís a chase bat that the player sold to Ben who removed the stickers and sold it to me claiming it as a root Keeley reject. Iím not sure where the confusion lies.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 14, 2019, 08:42:20 AM
Im not sure why its still listed on ebay. Maybe the original seller forgot to remove it
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: DorsetDan on September 14, 2019, 08:47:04 AM
This is not an SF bat. It’s a chase bat that the player sold to Ben who removed the stickers and sold it to me claiming it as a root Keeley reject. I’m not sure where the confusion lies.

... because it doesn’t have any traits of a genuine Chase and has a decidedly dodgy looking cheaply handle and the wrong shoulders etc. Maybe it was rehandled but with seeing more detail in your pics, nothing about it looks like Chase
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: ppccopener on September 14, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
I think Dan is right, think this is an Indian made bat. Iíve looked again at the chase I have and whilst they will vary in spec the handle is totally different.

I think you have an SF bat stickered up.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Sivlar13 on September 14, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
How does it tap up?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 14, 2019, 02:41:24 PM
... because it doesnít have any traits of a genuine Chase and has a decidedly dodgy looking cheaply handle and the wrong shoulders etc. Maybe it was rehandled but with seeing more detail in your pics, nothing about it looks like Chase

Iím just going by Robís comment on the ebay thread.

Yeah genuine, had two custom made on a factory visit thru me, plays for Denmark 🇩🇰


Could be SF or anything else really. Just know that the one on ebay is the same bat I have

Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 14, 2019, 02:42:24 PM
How does it tap up?

Really really well. Had a net today
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: DorsetDan on September 14, 2019, 03:05:36 PM
Looking at the pictures of this and the other thread, it looks like his sf was refurbished and chase stickers applied. He did have 2 flc’s Made at Chase.

I suspect this is the SF as it looks nothing like a Chase (as I said before and as Rob suggests)

The player therefore appears to be selling an SF on eBay he no longer has whilst claiming it to be an FLC with the full Chase FLC blurb. Not great form

It is conceivable the bat doc thought it was a Keeley or was told by the player it is a Keeley based on the shoulders but of course they could both be at the inflated claim game

Seems the mystery is solved ;)

If it is a decent bat and you like it then happy days regardless where it came from
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Yorkershire on September 17, 2019, 11:01:03 AM
I purchase doff Ben too..

To be fair he said it was labelled as an SF and claimed it was one of Denly's and he was/is with SF. AT no point did he say it was Keeley.

It has SF faded marks side... the question I have is... was it Denly's or just a run of the mill SF. I didn't pay silly money but nevertheless £200 notes.

I've taken off handle binding and look slike a SF..


(https://i.postimg.cc/qMYy0604/01-handle.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sghS2fDS/02-shoulders.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7PKSsQWC/03-handle.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JWmPCst/04-handle.jpg)
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 17, 2019, 11:51:13 AM
Note to self - don't purchase a bat from this Ben fella...
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: uknsaunders on September 20, 2019, 09:32:13 PM
Note to self - don't purchase a bat from this Ben fella...

Or any "Pro" bat. Only buy bats with the toe labelled as "Kohli", they must be geniune.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Sivlar13 on September 21, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Iíve got one from Ben - Keeley stick that has the Faf iXu stickers. Definitely a top end Keeley with ten well spaced grains and the ping is ridiculous. Pretty sure even @Ajdal said his went well!
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 21, 2019, 06:03:15 PM
Presumably Keeley import handles anyway?
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Ajdal on September 21, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
Presumably Keeley import handles anyway?

That bat is definitely not a Keeley. Good bat though.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 21, 2019, 10:28:40 PM
That bat is definitely not a Keeley. Good bat though.

Wasn't trying to prove it was. Was merely saying.
Title: Re: Curious case of the unknown bat maker
Post by: sarg on September 23, 2019, 01:18:07 AM
This stuff will keep happening if people continue to chase the allusive bat made for 'Player A'. (Unicorns)

I suggest you use any one of the bat makers on this forum to get a bat made for you instead and save a truckload of money.