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Title: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: Wozaboxa on December 16, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
We've all had that one coach who drops that pearl of wisdom and you carry it round with you wherever you go!

What is the best bit of advice you've ever been given?
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Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 16, 2019, 04:07:13 PM
just bat - "your technique is OK, your good enough, you have great hands, your issues are all in the head so just bat"

have that written on top of my bat handles as a reminder, say it to myself on the way to the middle and try to remember it
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Post by: Buzz on December 16, 2019, 04:12:49 PM
Move your head/eyes to the ball.

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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2019, 04:22:30 PM
just bat - "your technique is OK, your good enough, you have great hands, your issues are all in the head so just bat"

have that written on top of my bat handles as a reminder, say it to myself on the way to the middle and try to remember it

You must have tiny handwriting to fit that all onto your handle!
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: ppccopener on December 16, 2019, 04:47:07 PM
Not had any coaching as such to speak of myself but it would be practice watching the ball right onto the bat just as you would practice anything else in nets or training.

Ponting  brought this to County cricket when he had a short stint over here and if thatís something he believed in itís good enough for me  :)
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Post by: jamielsn15 on December 16, 2019, 05:14:57 PM
Watch the ball.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 16, 2019, 05:16:26 PM
"Mate, just give up"
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Post by: GDP1964 on December 16, 2019, 05:45:15 PM
See Ball hit Ball keep it simple
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Post by: Wozaboxa on December 16, 2019, 06:01:50 PM
"Mate, just give up"

Dad???
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 16, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
You must have tiny handwriting to fit that all onto your handle!

Oops! Have just bat on the top
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on December 16, 2019, 07:23:56 PM
As a batter you get to make one mistake but as a bowler you get chance after chance, with this is mind value your wicket and enjoy your good shots. Bit of advise I was given a few years ago seemed to make sense to me
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Post by: joymarvin on December 16, 2019, 07:35:44 PM
See Ball hit Ball keep it simple

LoL. I got the same advise when I was playing for my school team.
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Post by: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on December 16, 2019, 07:49:58 PM
Enjoy it. Itís just a hobby and is supposed to be fun
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Post by: InternalTraining on December 16, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
Kevin Pietersen: "Kiss the ball".

Best bit of advice as it makes you move your head to the ball.

 Throw in "dipping the shoulder" and "keep your head still" and you've got a great foundation for your batting.
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Post by: JTtaylor145 on December 17, 2019, 12:47:19 PM
"Don't poke your bat at the ball that's way outside the off stump, leave it or attempt to hit it hard"

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Post by: AlRidd on December 17, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
"Strong base, full face"
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Post by: jjelricksmith on December 17, 2019, 04:26:06 PM
Allow the bowler his areas, used to get out cover driving all the time as an opener. Now unless its a half volley its left alone
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Post by: edge on December 17, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
Two changes I've made that have come from seeing or reading things online have made more difference to my batting than any piece of advice I've ever received in person.

Technical tip from Ricky Ponting - line your outside eye up on leg stump at the other end. Stops my head getting too far over, balance is much improved.

Mental one - read this article about Greg Chappell and realised I'd never been concentrating properly before. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see (http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see)
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on December 17, 2019, 11:35:59 PM
Two changes I've made that have come from seeing or reading things online have made more difference to my batting than any piece of advice I've ever received in person.

Technical tip from Ricky Ponting - line your outside eye up on leg stump at the other end. Stops my head getting too far over, balance is much improved.

Mental one - read this article about Greg Chappell and realised I'd never been concentrating properly before. [url]http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see[/url] ([url]http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see[/url])


Thanks for the GC link. The watching the ball only 'from the window' is interesting, and makes sense. I shall try it, though I don't suppose it'll help me much.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on December 17, 2019, 11:40:12 PM
Best  bowling advice I was ever given, many years too late, and seemingly in opposition to much conventional coaching:  "where you hand goes, the ball goes."
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on December 17, 2019, 11:43:18 PM
I am currently doing a Level 2 coaching quaification. It's frightening some of the nonsense you could get away with coaching nowadays, to be honest.
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Post by: Komdotkom on December 18, 2019, 12:12:47 AM
Watch the ball. I got some batting coaching from one of the BBL coaches and he put me onto a drill to increase my ability to focus on a single point, not just looking generally at the bowler or just down the pitch but really AT the ball. His other tip was if you are going to hit the ball, go hard at it with no half measures. Having said that I'm a genuine number 11 so it's not exactly hard to improve my batting!
Bowling, best tip I ever got was to have a plan for your over and unless something changes stick to the plan.
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Post by: Wozaboxa on December 18, 2019, 08:57:35 AM
I am currently doing a Level 2 coaching quaification. It's frightening some of the nonsense you could get away with coaching nowadays, to be honest.

I have first hand experience of coaches spouting nonsense, my son was playing in a mixed age training game at his old club (old club for a reason) he was on a maiden over and tried the back of the hand slower ball, was a little wide but ruined his maiden, coach told him to "stop trying fancy balls and just bowl your stock ball" as I said this was in a mid week training game, if there was ever a time to try new stuff this was it! Shocking.
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Post by: Sloggerz on December 18, 2019, 09:43:09 AM
School P.E. teacher you cant hit runs in the pavilion.
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Post by: Sloggerz on December 18, 2019, 09:43:53 AM
Watch the ball. I got some batting coaching from one of the BBL coaches and he put me onto a drill to increase my ability to focus on a single point, not just looking generally at the bowler or just down the pitch but really AT the ball. His other tip was if you are going to hit the ball, go hard at it with no half measures. Having said that I'm a genuine number 11 so it's not exactly hard to improve my batting!
Bowling, best tip I ever got was to have a plan for your over and unless something changes stick to the plan.

What was the drill ?
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Post by: beaver5 on December 18, 2019, 10:32:31 AM
I was lucky enough to have some coaching by Tom Graveney as a kid. He told me whether your playing forward or back you should always lead with your elbow towards the ball. I've always returned to that thought if I'm ever out of form or if I'm facing some particularly challenging bowling. It's stood me in good stead over the years and helps to get your technique right.
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Post by: cesare_in on December 18, 2019, 10:34:10 AM
Two changes I've made that have come from seeing or reading things online have made more difference to my batting than any piece of advice I've ever received in person.

Technical tip from Ricky Ponting - line your outside eye up on leg stump at the other end. Stops my head getting too far over, balance is much improved.

Mental one - read this article about Greg Chappell and realised I'd never been concentrating properly before. [url]http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see[/url] ([url]http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1136242/what-does-a-batsman-see[/url])


I will start trying Chappell's method henceforth in nets. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: Canners on December 18, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
you can't score runs in the hut........ bat long
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: SLA on December 18, 2019, 04:48:37 PM
TBH the most useful advice I got, or could pass on, is that trying to change your actual technique is high risk, low reward, whereas changing your game plan is low risk, high reward.

Cricketers obsess a lot more about technique than they used to and tbh this is often the wrong focus. You're much more likely to make a positive difference to your game by just thinking a bit more carefully about how to make the most of your ability by being a bit smarter with your shot selection, bowling tactics, etc.
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Post by: InternalTraining on December 18, 2019, 05:22:09 PM
TBH the most useful advice I got, or could pass on, is that trying to change your actual technique is high risk, low reward, whereas changing your game plan is low risk, high reward.

Cricketers obsess a lot more about technique than they used to and tbh this is often the wrong focus. You're much more likely to make a positive difference to your game by just thinking a bit more carefully about how to make the most of your ability by being a bit smarter with your shot selection, bowling tactics, etc.

Interesting points. Few thoughts:

- Is a game plan that malleable that it can be switched/changed? For me, as a clubbie, if I play in the same spot, I play the way I play and I can't change it much.
- Change in technique works for me when I start working on it a season prior. Technique is muscle memory and building it takes time. But once, I have those reflexes trained, I can just go. So, it's slow and long to incorporate but easy to turn on/off during the game.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on December 18, 2019, 09:11:49 PM
School P.E. teacher you cant hit runs in the pavilion.

Unfortunately most of us go to schools that don't even have pavilions.
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Post by: SouthpawMark on December 18, 2019, 09:59:18 PM
Take up golf.
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Post by: Wazza08 on December 18, 2019, 10:37:28 PM
Take up golf.
Mine was similar - are you sure that you are really that bad at golf, why not try it again as their are competitions every weekend you could play in throughout the summer......  Not sure what he meant  :(
Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: SLA on December 19, 2019, 10:17:41 AM
Interesting points. Few thoughts:

- Is a game plan that malleable that it can be switched/changed? For me, as a clubbie, if I play in the same spot, I play the way I play and I can't change it much.
- Change in technique works for me when I start working on it a season prior. Technique is muscle memory and building it takes time. But once, I have those reflexes trained, I can just go. So, it's slow and long to incorporate but easy to turn on/off during the game.

ok, well to focus on batting:

I would expect most successful club batsmen have different go-to shots against different types of bowlers. You might look to drive an offspinner but sweep a legspinner for example.

I would also expect a decent batsman to have the ability to change tactics on different pitches or in different situations - mostly this involves recognising that a particular shot is going to get you out and stopping playing it. If the ball is stopping in the pitch, put the drive away and just play with soft hands and drop for a single instead. If the ball is staying low from back of a length, put the pull shot away and play back with a vertical bat.

Most of the time the difference between a successful batsman and an unsuccessful batsman at club level isn't technique, its gameplan. I've seen guys with horrendous techniques score tons, simply because they had 2 shots and played them with absolute discipline. I've seen players with flawless textbook techniques get out cheaply week after week because they didn't have the knowledge to figure out what shots to put away on what type of pitch. They'd be bowled by every ball that kept low, and caught at cover driving anytime the ball stuck in the pitch. (I used to coach county juniors - most of them have this problem).






Title: Re: What is the best bit of coaching advice you've ever been given?
Post by: edge on December 19, 2019, 11:58:01 AM
Decent advice that. I play with one bloke who's got an absolutely superb cover drive - doesn't make him look any less of a knob when he's consistently caught playing it.
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Post by: AJ2014 on January 16, 2020, 06:11:56 AM
We've all had that one coach who drops that pearl of wisdom and you carry it round with you wherever you go!

What is the best bit of advice you've ever been given?
I was batting carefully to leggie in the net,
coach said, take few steps forward and hit him, tried a few times and that worked well