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Title: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: LEACHY48 on January 04, 2020, 10:39:10 AM
Read the kit from 10 yrs ago thread that suggested Bradbury used to break all the time. We also all know that kookaburra have awful handles that break all the time, and keeley used to always break through the shoulders.

Often bat breakages, especially in instances like kookaburra, are attributed to poor quality handles, but is there a common theme between manufacturers that break all the time? Or is there something that certain manufacturers do to their bats to make them last?

Is it all down to the pressing a la GM? The more you press a bat the longer it lasts?

Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Buzz on January 04, 2020, 10:53:43 AM
I think it is more down to how the bats are used. I have been playing for 30 years and other than the odd handle go and occasional cracked toe, my bats have been fine.

Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: skip1973 on January 04, 2020, 10:59:24 AM
We sell hundreds of bats from all brands, none stand out as better or worse than the others.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: LEACHY48 on January 04, 2020, 11:12:31 AM
That's an interesting viewpoint @skip1973 it's contrary to what I thought as well, I always thought there were some that stand out as particularly brittle
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 11:26:59 AM
I've heard it said that most bats that break, break in the nets. It might just be that a lot of cricketers hit more balls in the nets than they do in the middle?
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: jayralh on January 04, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
I've heard it said that most bats that break, break in the nets. It might just be that a lot of cricketers hit more balls in the nets than they do in the middle?
In my experience why bat breaks at net is due to lack of quality bowler and quality shots. At nets we have mix bags of bowlers. sometime they bowl rubbish delivery and batsmen play rubbish shot to those balls resulting in breaking good bats.
In our team one guy does not understand concept of playing in new bat. He bowls yorker after yorker so i avoid him at nets when using new bat.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Buzz on January 04, 2020, 11:38:52 AM
I've heard it said that most bats that break, break in the nets. It might just be that a lot of cricketers hit more balls in the nets than they do in the middle?
I can't remember the last time I had a formal net... 😂😂
Good point.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 11:51:25 AM
I can't remember the last time I had a formal net... 😂😂
Good point.

You surprise me, Buzz. How do you prepare for a game? ('Beer and chips' answers will not be believed.)
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: SouthpawMark on January 04, 2020, 11:52:11 AM
A lot of bat breakages are caused by the balls too. Play with a decent ball and your bat will likely be fine. Play with one that feels like concrete and you can say goodbye to your bat fairly quickly.

Iíve found that local teams donít mind spending a bit of money on a red ball, but as soon as they need to buy a pink or white ball for a match they dip their hand in to the bargain basement section.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
In our team one guy does not understand concept of playing in new bat. He bowls yorker after yorker so i avoid him at nets when using new bat.

Not many club cricketees are capable of such repetition.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 12:00:20 PM
A lot of bat breakages are caused by the balls too. Play with a decent ball and your bat will likely be fine. Play with one that feels like concrete and you can say goodbye to your bat fairly quickly.

Iíve found that local teams donít mind spending a bit of money on a red ball, but as soon as they need to buy a pink or white ball for a match they dip their hand in to the bargain basement section.

Pink and white balls are used for shorter games, so don't have to last as long? And they're usually a bit rubbish however much you pay for them.

You needn't worry though;  you've got 9 spare GM LEs.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: SD on January 04, 2020, 12:22:22 PM
Back in the 90s Kookaburra Bubbles had a reputation for going through the toe at the first sight of a cricket ball.  When chasing the tight weight you had to assume it would be covered in 3 rolls of bat tape by the end of winter nets. 

For most club cricketers nets are the most dangerous place for bats.  They face a much greater volume of balls, have more freedom to play attacking shots and, if players are permitted to bring their own balls, face cheap hard balls.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Buzz on January 04, 2020, 02:08:14 PM
You surprise me, Buzz. How do you prepare for a game? ('Beer and chips' answers will not be believed.)

Mostly throw downs from my son. With a very rare bowling machine session.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 02:31:40 PM
Mostly throw downs from my son. With a very rare bowling machine session.

Interesting. I have often thought that some people are probably doing their game more harm than good in the nets.

Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: six and out on January 04, 2020, 02:39:06 PM
Interesting. I have often thought that some people are probably doing their game more harm than good in the nets.

Definitely..... I haven't consistently netted for the past 4 years. I still go to training when I can but I don't go in the nets.

If you aren't going to face the type and standard of bowling in the nets that you will face on Saturday, then you aren't really practicing correctly.

The other thing that has been a big problem is that the nets are really bouncy which is nothing like what you will play usually play on, so you again don't practice correctly.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Northern monkey on January 04, 2020, 05:49:58 PM
Iím the same,,,not been to outdoor nets in years
Iíd much rather have a bowl indoors to get the old muscles loosened up pre season, and maybe a little hit with a bola machine
As far as match type practice, Iíd rather have some throw downs on the boundary,,,,

As far as bats breaking,,,thin toes, bats allowed to dry out, bats not knocked in, ,, and my own personal favourite,,,,,dodgy cricket balls

Those that know me, know Iíve spent the last few years pestering the local league to adopt a standard decent ball, and after testing last season, they are now going to adopt a standard ball across the oxfordshire leagueís.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on January 04, 2020, 10:09:42 PM
Been.  Playing adult cricket for 22 seasons now and in that time i have had 1 bat go in the handle and that was my first proper bat a Kook Bubble LE and one Salix went through the toe, however the bowler was rapid, like proper rapid and dug out a Yorker.

Seen a few GN go through the shoulders in our club over past few seasons
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: InternalTraining on January 04, 2020, 10:28:00 PM
Interesting. I have often thought that some people are probably doing their game more harm than good in the nets.

Clubbie nets are a disaster! I don't bother any more just some time with a Bola machine preps me well for my games.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: InternalTraining on January 04, 2020, 10:35:08 PM
Re: bats breaking, I have found that it really depends on how you go about your batting. In the nets, avoid bad bowlers or yorkers. In the game, don't drag the bat on the ground, don't tap it (I don't), and don't lend it to anyone. We do use cheapo balls but my bats have held up well against them and I avoid nets like a plague. I have seen lighter bats (2-6 to 2-8) break more frequently than heavier ones.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Jimbo on January 04, 2020, 11:24:02 PM
Getting over the habit of tapping my bat took me all of last season, absolutely destroyed the toe in the process.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 04, 2020, 11:56:54 PM
Clubbie nets are a disaster! I don't bother any more just some time with a Bola machine preps me well for my games.

Agreed. I try to find regular practice partners. Not that it does me that much good.

One day, a couple of years ago, my mate (net) bowled to Virat Kohli in the morning, and me in the afternoon. I liked that!
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on January 05, 2020, 12:07:48 AM
I've said this before, but I'm sure that if some of us didn't go in nets we'd be able to make bats last twenty years or more.
Title: Re: Why do some brands bats just break for fun
Post by: adb club cricketer on January 05, 2020, 07:41:17 PM
While the type of batting contributes surely, given all things same with the batsman/balls etc., I think bat designs (and corresponding brands who have those designs) contribute a lot to bat breakages. For e.g. bats with thin shoulders and thin handles with lot of weight in the middle (marketed as concentrated middle for power hitting!) tend to break more than others at the shoulders.