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Title: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: uknsaunders on December 04, 2016, 09:39:34 PM
I thought it might be interesting to keep a record of clubs of teams going to the wall over the winter.  We have all seen the impact in recent years but some kind of record,  even the odd post here,  might be interesting going forward. Would love to catalogue previous years as well.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 04, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
Our Sunday team folded last season as we simply couldn't muster enough players to fulfil fixtures. We used to play friendly games but entered a league to make things easier in terms of regular games.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: tim2000s on December 05, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
Over the past six years, we've lost our Colts, then our fifths was "handed over" to a different club. Looks like we've dropped the 4ths from next season too...
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: SwingAndMiss on December 05, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
Since I started playing 20 years ago the Cornwall league has lost 6 divisions worth of clubs, that's a scary thought!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: ppccopener on December 05, 2016, 09:30:25 AM
Since I started playing 20 years ago the Cornwall league has lost 6 divisions worth of clubs, that's a scary thought!

that's a huge amount of clubs,,

can you put a finger on why in that part of the Country that's happening
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: jblowe on December 05, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
Oxfordshire Cricket Association from 2010 to 2016
In 2010 the league had 105 sides playing in 11 Divisions
CLUBS who have pulled out of the league
Clubs moved to another league
Westbury 1st
Westbury 2nds
Horley 1st
Horley 2nds
East Oxford 1st
East Oxford 2nds
Winslow Town 1st
Kings Sutton 1st
Minster Lovell 1st
Minster Lovell 2nds
Minster Lovell 3rds

Clubs that have folded or Merged
Freeland 1st
Freeland 2nds
Letcombe 1st
Oxford Caribbean 1st
Cowley 1st
East Oxford 3rds
Oxford Rescue 1st
Oxford Rescue 2nds
Cassington 1st
West Witney 1st
SSJ Willows 1st
Garsington 2nds
Garsington 3rds
Chalgrove 1st
Marsh Gibbon 2nds
West Ilsley 2nds
Combe 2nds
Chinnor 1st
Chesterton 2nds
Watlington 2nds
Britwell Salome 2nds
Great Horwood 3rds
Ducklington 2nds
Hailey 1st
Hanborough 2nds
Cassington Rescue 1st
Hanney 2nds

Clubs that have joined
Yarnton & Cowley 1st
Yarnton & Cowley 2nds
Stanton Harcourt 2nds
Kidlington 3rds

There are some clubs fighting back next season see the return of
Watlington 2nds
Letcombe 1st
Chalgrove 1st

In 2016 the OCA finished the season with 85 sides playing in 9 divisions 




Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 05, 2016, 09:34:48 AM
Interesting  thread and a great idea also our local sports historian as did the same thing in 2015 he now has a book in the library the stats show over 60 clubs and there  ground locations in 30  years have gone in a 5 mile radius.
The club I played for on Sat folded after 40 years  recently my local club algamated with a bigger club in 2014 .
My club no longer has a second  Saturday  side  or a Sunday team.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: simonmay5 on December 05, 2016, 10:39:48 AM
We had four sides on a Saturday and two on a Sunday we are now struggling to get one side out on a Saturday and Sunday we just about have enough sad time lots of clubs seem to be struggling
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: smilley792 on December 05, 2016, 10:56:08 AM
In 2004 the team i played for "BAYFIELD" folded due to lack of numbers.

It itself was made up off two teams. "HADFIELDS" and "BROWN BAILEYS". Both were works team that lost works backing, and grounds so formed together to become one side.


It was a shame as it is rumoured that brown baileys was the best cricket ground in Sheffield at its peak.




Other teams I can think off near me.

Stanton in the peak(folded a year after winning the Yorkshire Derby league)
Exclesfield park
Shardlows
Mosborough cc
Woodhouse cc



Parklands and Eden grove joined together to form one side
Rotherham Phoenix and Sheffield united cc joined together to form one side(last season)
Swd and millhouses joined together to form one side.

Here got to be atleast 50 more in the area I can't remember, atleast 30 of them ex works teams from the Sheffield league. 
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 05, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
In 2004 the team i played for "BAYFIELD" folded due to lack of numbers.

It itself was made up off two teams. "HADFIELDS" and "BROWN BAILEYS". Both were works team that lost works backing, and grounds so formed together to become one side.


It was a shame as it is rumoured that brown baileys was the best cricket ground in Sheffield at its peak.




Other teams I can think off near me.

Stanton in the peak(folded a year after winning the Yorkshire Derby league)
Exclesfield park
Shardlows
Mosborough cc
Woodhouse cc



Parklands and Eden grove joined together to form one side
Rotherham Phoenix and Sheffield united cc joined together to form one side(last season)
Swd and. Illuosue joiend together to form one side.

Here got to be atleast 50 more in the area I can't remember, atleast 30 of them ex works teams from the Sheffield league.

Didn't millhouses and someone merge around 2008/9 @smilley792

And back in 2010 my old club, Chesterfield barbarians merges with sheep ridge cc to go from 2 Saturday sides and a Sunday side to 3 Saturday and 2 Sunday but for me it ruined the whole feel of the club which felt like 5 different clubs for each team which was a shame
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: smilley792 on December 05, 2016, 11:31:52 AM
Didn't millhouses and someone merge around 2008/9 @smilley792

And back in 2010 my old club, Chesterfield barbarians merges with sheep ridge cc to go from 2 Saturday sides and a Sunday side to 3 Saturday and 2 Sunday but for me it ruined the whole feel of the club which felt like 5 different clubs for each team which was a shame

Millhouses and swd, I've edited my original posts as I didn't proof read. Lol.

@Kieron_BT used to play for them.

Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Kieron_BT on December 05, 2016, 11:39:21 AM
Millhouses and swd, I've edited my original posts as I didn't proof read. Lol.

@Kieron_BT used to play for them.

Correct

I also originally joined when there was 3 Saturday teams, 1 Sunday team, 1 midweek team and an indoor team.

The club is now down to 2 Saturday teams and 1 midweek team and I think the 2nd team played with 8 players or so a few times last year from what I heard.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: jamielsn15 on December 05, 2016, 12:01:22 PM
Probably worth looking at the reasons; lack of volunteers, lack of players, lack of effective links with schools and other feeder clubs.  Has the ground been sold for development? Oppressive ground charges/fees? Lack of flexibility from leagues in supporting clubs, etc. Myriad of reasons, so if we are listing then having that data would be useful and powerful. That can be taken to leagues and the ECB as evidence from around the country...
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: six and out on December 05, 2016, 12:26:21 PM
For us in Milton Keynes it is actually the opposite effect that is causing the death of clubs and sides.

In 3 seasons our Sunday side has gone from League to Friendly to next year week by week cricket. More concerning is that last season we conceded a league game due to lack of players (2nd XI) for the first time in 30 years!

We simply have too many clubs in too small an area, which then dilutes the amount of players to the clubs, not making a lot of the clubs sustainable. This is especially noticeable in colts cricket.

In MK within a 20 minute drive of the centre of town you could play for over 50 different clubs (across 3 different leagues - FCCL, Cherwell and ECB Northants Premier) and that doesn't include the midweek/Sunday only teams. It is becoming increasingly difficult to get new players and we are one of the better clubs.

Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 05, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
My area  Stourbridge  has lost a lot of works teams also in Kidderminster when the carpet industry folded  the Kidderminster league lost all it's teams  Sat sun and midweek and folded whilst I was league sec now all the grounds have gone some were lovely they had full time groundsman.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: alexhilly1492 on December 05, 2016, 12:57:07 PM
Correct

I also originally joined when there was 3 Saturday teams, 1 Sunday team, 1 midweek team and an indoor team.

The club is now down to 2 Saturday teams and 1 midweek team and I think the 2nd team played with 8 players or so a few times last year from what I heard.

thats a shame always enjoyed playing millhouses works!
from what ive heard from ex team mates theres quite a few clubs reducing the number of teams they have in the yorks and derby league
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: GoldenArm on December 05, 2016, 01:15:21 PM
@Seniorplayer I know you play in the Worcester leagues too, I've heard on the grapevine Worcester Dominies are folding now as well after several years of struggle, despite finishing top of the league a few times and being denied promotion due to their ground being too small! Think there was a thread about that started by another local boy @neoncricket There are surely more to follow judging by the turnout for a few teams this year.  Malvern have been crashing down the divisions last few years, not saying they will fold but they are definitely struggling for players and that's sometimes the death knell for a club.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 05, 2016, 01:42:43 PM
@Seniorplayer I know you play in the Worcester leagues too, I've heard on the grapevine Worcester Dominies are folding now as well after several years of struggle, despite finishing top of the league a few times and being denied promotion due to their ground being too small! Think there was a thread about that started by another local boy @neoncricket There are surely more to follow judging by the turnout for a few teams this year.  Malvern have been crashing down the divisions last few years, not saying they will fold but they are definitely struggling for players and that's sometimes the death knell for a club.

@GoldenArm - Dominies have merged with Norton, they've taken in the large majority of the players along with the kids section.

Also Barnards Green 4s have folded, 3rd team have been moved from Div 3 to Div 6 as a result...
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: GoldenArm on December 05, 2016, 01:52:13 PM
@GoldenArm - Dominies have merged with Norton, they've taken in the large majority of the players along with the kids section.

Also Barnards Green 4s have folded, 3rd team have been moved from Div 3 to Div 6 as a result...

Have they really, well at least they still exist in some form. Wonder what's happening to their ground? Not surprised about Barnards tbh, their 3rds must be annoyed though. Don't think I'll particularly miss playing at Newlands it has to be said!! Cleobury have gone down to one team and are moving into the marches I think. Won't miss playing them either!! Horrible ground.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: ScottParko on December 05, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
I know the Cleveland league in my area of the country in 2015 had 5 teams in the league 2 of which were 2nd teams!

In all fairness a fair few of the sides that left that league have joined other leagues such as the Langbaurgh league, but a lot of them also folded completely. I know at least one of them struggled with getting a suitable ground. Started in the council ran  recreational grounds which of course being council ran were not looked after at all, but expensive to rent, turning people off playing! My club, who are also struggling to keep going, managed to get a boost from that side folding with the arrival of a few of their players meaning we could get 2 full sides out more often!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 05, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
Have they really, well at least they still exist in some form. Wonder what's happening to their ground? Not surprised about Barnards tbh, their 3rds must be annoyed though. Don't think I'll particularly miss playing at Newlands it has to be said!! Cleobury have gone down to one team and are moving into the marches I think. Won't miss playing them either!! Horrible ground.

Yeah, good friends with a couple of the Doms lads so got the inside scoop haha. As far as I'm aware the Doms ground is due to be sold off for housing - the Uni owns the ground and it's been in the pipeline for while (hence the big plan a few years back for them to move over to the Cinderella ground).

Yeah good riddance as far as Cleobury are concerned IMO, right trek too!!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on December 05, 2016, 03:00:48 PM
Barnards green got hit in the face there when they were Newland Swan anyway  Domionies they have merged cleobury  Mortimer went down to one team after the first game of 2016 and were fined  120 points which they weren't happy about  I was told last summer they were  planning to leave.
 Also told  by a club chairman last week. That his club was meeting that night to decide if they were going to drop a team and at  the Worcs AGM  on the 22 Nov other clubs  were still deciding on the number of teams for 2017.
Hope it doesn't delay the 2017 fixtures they are usually published Christmas week.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Andythomo21 on December 05, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
I know the Cleveland league in my area of the country in 2015 had 5 teams in the league 2 of which were 2nd teams!

In all fairness a fair few of the sides that left that league have joined other leagues such as the Langbaurgh league, but a lot of them also folded completely. I know at least one of them struggled with getting a suitable ground. Started in the council ran  recreational grounds which of course being council ran were not looked after at all, but expensive to rent, turning people off playing! My club, who are also struggling to keep going, managed to get a boost from that side folding with the arrival of a few of their players meaning we could get 2 full sides out more often!

@ScottParko Who's your team mate and where do you live?
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: KIPPERS on December 05, 2016, 04:08:58 PM
certainly all the works teams have folded. Gone near me in the last 30 years Glaxo. Kodak. LNER. GWR. Guinness. GWR taken over by Trailfinders so the guys moved to Brentham. Trailfinders Started there own team with all ex Glaxo players as there ground was sold to build a new school who have kept the square. Kodak demolished and gone LNER ground no longer used for cricket I think. Guinness sold and demolished. Nearly all the Old West Indian teams have gone, there used to be 5/6 around here. But on the bright side most have been replaced by new teams from the asian communities and all the local grounds are fully booked every weekend. Ealing council are actually trying to bring old unused squares back into use with Club partnerships as the demand is so high. The nature of the game has changed beyond recognition, you wont see many Clubs with a bar full of players till 11 at night anymore like it was when i started.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: ScottParko on December 05, 2016, 04:17:48 PM
@ScottParko Who's your team mate and where do you live?

Hartlepool Power Station CC based in Hartlepool in the North East.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: JB on December 05, 2016, 05:22:06 PM
Our whatsapp group of senior members were discussing how we can carry on without folding just this morning. Our league looks like its already lost one team during the winter, who lost their financial backing resulting in 9 first team players leaving!! We are finding it increasingly difficult to recruit players. Everyone, even really average players are looking for money! We have around 16-17 players so the only option would be to drop a league and field one team. Only thing is that quite a few of the group would rather spend their saturday with the children than play in the lower league. Standard of ground and opposition being the reasoning
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Johnny on December 05, 2016, 06:57:22 PM
@smilley792 I used to play against Sheffield United. They had a great set up with the cricket school and several pitches. Sad times if they've started to struggle.

Local to me I've seen my old works team BAe Warton go from 3 teams to folding. Also Harris Park, which was Freddie Flintoff 's first team folded in the last few years.

They're just the ones I know off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more

Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Andythomo21 on December 05, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
Hartlepool Power Station CC based in Hartlepool in the North East.

Ah, ok.  I live in Whitby and play for a team about 10 minutes north of Whitby. Used to work at Skinningrove/Carlin How and then Lackenby between Redcar and Middlesbrough.  Just with you mentioning the Cleveland league, I know a fair few lads from Loftus & Staithes who used to play in the Cleveland League.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: smilley792 on December 05, 2016, 07:48:55 PM
@smilley792 I used to play against Sheffield United. They had a great set up with the cricket school and several pitches. Sad times if they've started to struggle.


My old team hired a pitch from them.

Back a few years and they had a wonderful set up, 6 lane netting hall, 4 pitches. 1 of great standard, 1 decent and the other two good enough for lower leagues(still better than council pitches)


The lot went downhill a tad and then Hallam university bought the lot from them.

They have since removed 3 of the 4 pitches to replace with football and rugby pitches and just left the main pitch and sport hall for cricket.

Sheff u/Phoenix f St stillnplayt her edit the 2nds and 3rds play at Rotherham Phoenix old ground(which is just 1/2 a mile up the road)






Go back many many years and Sheffield united cc shared bramall lane with Sheffield united football club, the main stand and what is the car park used to be the cricket square and pavilion.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: ScottParko on December 05, 2016, 10:12:33 PM
Ah, ok.  I live in Whitby and play for a team about 10 minutes north of Whitby. Used to work at Skinningrove/Carlin How and then Lackenby between Redcar and Middlesbrough.  Just with you mentioning the Cleveland league, I know a fair few lads from Loftus & Staithes who used to play in the Cleveland League.

I think Loftus were one of the final few and I think applied to the Langbaurgh league. I'm only a youngster to the game but I know a lot of our lads played most of their careers in that league and are gutted seeing it go to ruins as with many other cricket leagues and teams.

Dormanstown are fairly new to our league from the Cleveland league, if my geography is correct that may be around the Lackenby area.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Johnny on December 05, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
@smilley792 Bramhall Lane is well before my time. Only ever played at Bawtry Lane. Massive shame, it sounds like it's gone down pan
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Andythomo21 on December 06, 2016, 06:58:34 AM
I think Loftus were one of the final few and I think applied to the Langbaurgh league. I'm only a youngster to the game but I know a lot of our lads played most of their careers in that league and are gutted seeing it go to ruins as with many other cricket leagues and teams.

Dormanstown are fairly new to our league from the Cleveland league, if my geography is correct that may be around the Lackenby area.

Spot on @ScottParko , Dormanstown is right near Lackenby.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Northern monkey on December 06, 2016, 08:57:49 AM
Most of the teams and leagues I played in as a youngster are long gone.
The Burnley and nelson mid week leagues
Nelson Sunday school league
All the old works teams etc long gone
The craven leagues lost a lot of teams,(gained a few Bradford league teams tho)
Not sure how the Lancashire and ribblesdale leagues are doing
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Lumsden on January 03, 2017, 05:13:50 PM
Bit of a mixed bag around York. Some of the clubs from towns of a reasonable size like Thirsk and Selby are really struggling (although not RIP status) whilst nearby village clubs seem to be thriving.   
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: benparkinson1 on January 04, 2017, 05:41:51 PM
Most of the teams and leagues I played in as a youngster are long gone.
The Burnley and nelson mid week leagues
Nelson Sunday school league
All the old works teams etc long gone
The craven leagues lost a lot of teams,(gained a few Bradford league teams tho)
Not sure how the Lancashire and ribblesdale leagues are doing

The Lancs League are doing alright. Some more teams have been added to it for the start of the new season
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: trypewriter on March 03, 2017, 09:33:30 AM
A lot of it is down to changing demographics. Back in the day on my local patch there were loads of works teams, all with their own sports clubs and very good grounds - good enough to host first class fixtures. These have pretty much gone, the grounds have been built on etc. work forces are smaller these days, some of the firms don't exist anymore, guys now spend their weekends being dragged around garden centres and Ikea. It's affecting all sports, not just cricket.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 03, 2017, 10:25:32 AM
A lot of it is down to changing demographics. Back in the day on my local patch there were loads of works teams, all with their own sports clubs and very good grounds - good enough to host first class fixtures. These have pretty much gone, the grounds have been built on etc. work forces are smaller these days, some of the firms don't exist anymore, guys now spend their weekends being dragged around garden centres and Ikea. It's affecting all sports, not just cricket.

Yes I agree but all this travelling we now have to do  on Saturdays as almost killed off Sunday cricket also due to the time  involved  also lots of teams  last season were much  weaker when  playing away.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: LcWoodward on March 03, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
We come between two clubs that are a lot bigger and struggle to get the juniors through. The local academy sends the better players to other clubs. This means securing funding is a struggle for us.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 03, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
We come between two clubs that are a lot bigger and struggle to get the juniors through. The local academy sends the better players to other clubs. This means securing funding is a struggle for us.
From experience
Academy's want to attract the best of the best therefore they link in to the local  top  clubs and then the counties the more successful academy's  are the better the funding.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: LcWoodward on March 03, 2017, 11:45:24 AM
From experience
Academy's want to attract the best of the best therefore they link in to the local  top  clubs and then the counties the more successful academy's  are the better the funding.

Yeah that's the problem, that and the fact we are a old miners welfare club. Unfortunately causes too many issues when trying to improve the ground and facilities 
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 03, 2017, 01:44:51 PM
From experience
Academy's want to attract the best of the best therefore they link in to the local  top  clubs and then the counties the more successful academy's  are the better the funding.

I would question the assumption that bigger clubs provide better training for juniors, meaning the funding is merely going to subsidise overseas, paid players or more fancy things.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 03, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
I would question the assumption that bigger clubs provide better training for juniors, meaning the funding is merely going to subsidise overseas, paid players or more fancy things.

I wouldn't say that the bigger clubs  always provide better training you  as get more opportunity with the smaller clubs .
But if academy's want there  funding to continue they need to be seen to be involved with the big  more successful clubs.
Also seen to many players at big clubs become just a number personally wouldn't go anywhere near them.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: LDifa on March 30, 2017, 07:04:40 AM
Living up north in a hot bed of cricket - so so many clubs in a small area is un-real, and the shake up/creation of the GMCL looks like a good positive move forward.
It is nice to be part of a club that is 150yrs old this year and seems to be going from strength to strength, Greenmount CC in Bury, the 1s & 2s may have struggled but the 3s won their league and there is a thriving junior section - and they have just launched a 4th team to accommodate the colts coming through.

Northern Monkey I think the Ribblesdale League lost a few teams to the GMCL and also to the Lancashire League which has expanded for the first time in donkeys years.

There is also a fair number of social teams sprouting up for mid week friendlies - full of guys who used to play cricket
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Northern monkey on March 30, 2017, 09:31:51 AM
That's good to see
I'm glad the lancs leagues has opened it's doors
It was a closed shop for far too long
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: enlightened on March 30, 2017, 02:15:26 PM
Living up north in a hot bed of cricket - so so many clubs in a small area is un-real, and the shake up/creation of the GMCL looks like a good positive move forward.
It is nice to be part of a club that is 150yrs old this year and seems to be going from strength to strength, Greenmount CC in Bury, the 1s & 2s may have struggled but the 3s won their league and there is a thriving junior section - and they have just launched a 4th team to accommodate the colts coming through.

Northern Monkey I think the Ribblesdale League lost a few teams to the GMCL and also to the Lancashire League which has expanded for the first time in donkeys years.

There is also a fair number of social teams sprouting up for mid week friendlies - full of guys who used to play cricket

Played against Greenmount a few times as a junior in my time at Eagley CC - I think Greenmount was home to Gary, Phil & Neville Neville at the time!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Manormanic on March 30, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
One for the TVL guys - sad to see Marlow Park droppingto a single side for this season. 
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: uknsaunders on March 30, 2017, 11:05:37 PM
One for the TVL guys - sad to see Marlow Park droppingto a single side for this season.

Not unexpected. They have had a first team made of hired guns. These guys weren't paying subs or match fees and draining the club of resources.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 31, 2017, 06:25:17 AM
Not unexpected. They have had a first team made of hired guns. These guys weren't paying subs or match fees and draining the club of resources.

Ah the modern way.. professional :)
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
Funnily enough we have a players meeting tonight to vote on joining the TVL
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Manormanic on March 31, 2017, 03:29:38 PM
Funnily enough we have a players meeting tonight to vote on joining the TVL

really?  Who do you play for?
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Chertsey
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 31, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
Chertsey

I would have thought the surrey champ was the better league for locality for you chaps Bruce.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Manormanic on March 31, 2017, 07:14:40 PM
Quite - there'd be some serious travelling!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Completely agree (as it would appear, so do most of the players - the potential move seems to be driven by a couple of committeemen with personal agendas).
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: jblowe on May 14, 2017, 09:01:02 PM
So today I heard that Radley CC have folded their 1st team, they become the second club to pull a side out of the OCA division 1 this season
Three weeks into the season and we have had 5 conceded games and 11 games where one side has played with 10 or less.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Calzehbhoy on May 14, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
Warboys CC failed to put out a first team in the Tucker Gardner Division 2 (Cambs & Herts Prem) yet were able to put out a 2nd & 3rd XI
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on May 14, 2017, 09:50:03 PM
Warboys CC failed to put out a first team in the Tucker Gardner Division 2 (Cambs & Herts Prem) yet were able to put out a 2nd & 3rd XI

Play cricket says the 2s conceded as well mate, did they play anyway even though league rules say the points will go to the oppo?
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Calzehbhoy on May 14, 2017, 10:02:40 PM
Yeah im pretty sure they did, certainly thats what was being said at the game yeaterday. Strange decision if that is the case!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Northern monkey on May 15, 2017, 06:26:28 AM
So today I heard that Radley CC have folded their 1st team, they become the second club to pull a side out of the OCA division 1 this season
Three weeks into the season and we have had 5 conceded games and 11 games where one side has played with 10 or less.

Wow!!

I suppose it was expected of Radley, but still a shame
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: jblowe on May 15, 2017, 07:01:54 AM
So today I heard that Radley CC have folded their 1st team, they become the second club to pull a side out of the OCA division 1 this season
Three weeks into the season and we have had 5 conceded games and 11 games where one side has played with 10 or less.

And what was our Wonderful Chairman's suggestion to help struggling clubs in the OCA.  It was to make all clubs in div 5 and above have none playing scorers.  If you cant get 11 for a game, where are you going to find a scorer?
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 15, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
And how will a none playing scorer help get 11 players on the pitch ?.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: hilly_2015 on May 15, 2017, 08:40:01 AM
When I first joined my current club, there were 3 divisions in our league - that's since dropped down to 2, and only this season we've seen a couple of teams drop down to just the 1 team.

It's bolstered our second division which our seconds play in (my team) but we seem to be quite a closed shop - no new teams have entered our league for years.

Hopefully with our league now being part of the pyramid system this will change - but I reserve judgement because our league is Win / Lose, whereas the one above is timed.

Having played Win / Lose cricket all my life, I'm not sure whether the clubs in our league would be happy to change that.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Manormanic on May 15, 2017, 08:58:13 AM
Not unexpected. They have had a first team made of hired guns. These guys weren't paying subs or match fees and draining the club of resources.

A quick glance over the TVL shows playing numbers under pressure everywhere - big clubs like Amersham, Henley, Windsor and Harefield have cancelled 4th XI games so far whilst other cancellations last weekend included Marlow 3 and Gerrards Cross 3.  And that is before Ramadhan kicks in... :(
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Calzehbhoy on May 15, 2017, 09:07:53 AM
And how will a none playing scorer help get 11 players on the pitch ?.

Think you might have missed the point?? He is saying it's hard enough to find 11 players without then having to find a twelfth person willing to sit & score all afternoon!
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 15, 2017, 12:36:25 PM
Think you might have missed the point?? He is saying it's hard enough to find 11 players without then having to find a twelfth person willing to sit & score all afternoon!

That would make sense but to me it reads the opposite ie find a scorer who won't be involved on the playing side.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: FattusCattus on May 15, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Crickey!!  Just seen this from a team in our league - http://surreychampionship.play-cricket.com/website/results/2898957 (http://surreychampionship.play-cricket.com/website/results/2898957) - bowled out for 18 by the side we played last year who could only put 6 players on the pitch and they were poor?

Also looks like several 3XI / 4XI fixtures conceded this week, including from clubs such as Weybridge, Wimbledon and Leatherhead.

A bit worrying really.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: GoodLeave on May 15, 2017, 02:07:22 PM
Crickey!!  Just seen this from a team in our league - [url]http://surreychampionship.play-cricket.com/website/results/2898957[/url] ([url]http://surreychampionship.play-cricket.com/website/results/2898957[/url]) - bowled out for 18 by the side we played last year who could only put 6 players on the pitch and they were poor?

Also looks like several 3XI / 4XI fixtures conceded this week, including from clubs such as Weybridge, Wimbledon and Leatherhead.

A bit worrying really.


Are Farnham so much better than Camberley? If so, why would Camberley win the toss and choose to bat!

Might as well let the oppo bat the overs and let your bowlers have a go if you know you're going to get skittled for not many... 18 ao off 16.5 overs is a bit daft (Especially when 4 of those were extras)
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 15, 2017, 02:32:23 PM
So. They could all go home and not have four fielders chasing leather
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on May 15, 2017, 05:34:29 PM
Are Farnham so much better than Camberley? If so, why would Camberley win the toss and choose to bat!

Might as well let the oppo bat the overs and let your bowlers have a go if you know you're going to get skittled for not many... 18 ao off 16.5 overs is a bit daft (Especially when 4 of those were extras)

And chase leather while people tonk you for 300+!! Sod that, nothing more demoralising than fielding and getting smashed
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: GoodLeave on May 15, 2017, 08:45:42 PM
And chase leather while people tonk you for 300+!! Sod that, nothing more demoralising than fielding and getting smashed

Bowlers get some game time/practice?

What have we learnt from being bowled out for 18 and the oppo knocks them off in 2.2 overs? I'd want my subs back.
Title: Re: RIP Cricket Clubs
Post by: FattusCattus on May 16, 2017, 07:59:57 AM
Are Farnham so much better than Camberley? If so, why would Camberley win the toss and choose to bat!

Might as well let the oppo bat the overs and let your bowlers have a go if you know you're going to get skittled for not many... 18 ao off 16.5 overs is a bit daft (Especially when 4 of those were extras)

If anyone at Camberley had played Farnham over the last two years, they would have known they have been very, very poor. As my post stated, they could only muster 6 players against us last year so it is not unreasonable for certain types of captain to think they would cash in on some batting practice.

My this game can bite you on the ass!  :D