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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2008, 09:17:52 PM »

I've said this before elsewhere, but I think people on here have been spoilt with our accessibility to Fusion. As Tom points out, as James it oft cited as one of THE best batmakers in the world, the prices they are charging are equivalent to their peers, and as the name grows (which I'm sure is from a fair few years of hard work) they can attract a greater premium for their product. In terms of perceived value, this still looks like more for my money than buying a top end pellara for example.

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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2008, 10:21:18 PM »

well my bat is going to have weight taken off next week so i should be getting some new stickers on then!
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2008, 11:53:35 PM »

I can tell you that I've had a nice Fusion but James is a long way from the top table of bat makers. If this willow is as good as the price would point to then he'll do well but to get a players bat and I mean genuine county level you find them at the rate of 1 in a 100 clefts so has James bought 10,000 clefts in a year or is has he played up the quality to boost business?

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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2008, 11:57:25 PM »

My nanna and grandad bought me a skyer for Xmas and were shocked when the price when from 60 quid to 140 overnight, not as shocked as we were that is.

Got it for xmas and when down to my circket club yesterday to see what it was like.

I WAS AMAZED..............  for all the wrong reasons. I was stunned to see that i could not even his the ball as far as i do with my Laver.  I was middleing it and trying to hit it as far as i could but could not even hit a six. Yet i managed to hit the ball onto the roadway with my laver.  

The only thing it is good for is hitting short sharp catches.  Can somebody tell me if i am using it wrong? What do i need to do, kp says he can hit the ball out of the ground with it.  Yet i can barely get it to the FENCE ON THE ROLL!
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2009, 01:20:01 AM »

I would say the Superbest and the G1 are reasonably priced, at the same level as most other batmakers whether they're top or not. A Newbery off the shelf costs 200, a Redback costs around that, Laver costs 220, Warsop 200, Nixon 225.

They're around the right mark with the Superbest price certainly, it's just this new LE grade which has seen the major change. Perhaps it is just a gimmick but I think it makes good business sense. Offer the rich people who want the best a more expensive choice, or the Superbest for 80 less which will seem a bargain in comparison to others. For example the first breadmaker sold very little however when they introduced a "deluxe" edition priced at 50% more the original edition flew off the shelves due to a perceived bargain for not much less quality.
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2009, 01:27:38 AM »

My nanna and grandad bought me a skyer for Xmas and were shocked when the price when from 60 quid to 140 overnight, not as shocked as we were that is.

Got it for xmas and when down to my circket club yesterday to see what it was like.

I WAS AMAZED..............  for all the wrong reasons. I was stunned to see that i could not even his the ball as far as i do with my Laver.  I was middleing it and trying to hit it as far as i could but could not even hit a six. Yet i managed to hit the ball onto the roadway with my laver.  

The only thing it is good for is hitting short sharp catches.  Can somebody tell me if i am using it wrong? What do i need to do, kp says he can hit the ball out of the ground with it.  Yet i can barely get it to the FENCE ON THE ROLL!
I've seen KP and Mark do it and they really hit it miles, I think it's a case of finding the right technique to hit the ball with. The Skyer you have is probably even better than the one KP used to clear the Media Centre at Lords.

Maybe try watching the videos and the technique they use.
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2009, 08:38:07 AM »

I agree with the Skyer Tom, I can clear the ground from one boundry to the next, not because it hits the ball much further, mostly because of the control from the short bat.
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2009, 10:49:26 AM »

Agreed. With the Skyer yuo can hit the ball much much further than one would normally imagine  or dream of with a normal bat.

Nozza, I think there is something wrong with the way you are using it.
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2009, 11:30:48 AM »

The Skyer I used allowed me to hit huge catches, you just got to get the technique right Noz. Try not to hold the skyer at the end of the handle, try somewhere nearer to the blade.

On the subject of Fusion, I can see why everyone is gutted as their prices rise. But as they get more successful and well known its natural for them to charge more - we all just wanna make a little money eh?
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2009, 12:23:12 PM »

I've said this before elsewhere, but I think people on here have been spoilt with our accessibility to Fusion. As Tom points out, as James it oft cited as one of THE best batmakers in the world, the prices they are charging are equivalent to their peers, and as the name grows (which I'm sure is from a fair few years of hard work) they can attract a greater premium for their product. In terms of perceived value, this still looks like more for my money than buying a top end pellara for example.

I am sure no one will be putting their money on the adidas cricket bats unless they reduce their price by at least 40%. I was at a retailer a week or so back and they had Adidas bats. Looked very ordinary except for the stickers. The retailer himself stocked the bats on the condition that the bats would be returned if they did not sell.

I agree we have been spoilt by Fusions accessibility and pricing in the past. However, I still feel Fusion should be more empathetic with his customers, given that he too would have felt the pinch when he had to pay out of his nose for a good bat when he was not making them himself.

Given Fusion's same price range as a Newbery, Salix, Warsop, Laver Wood, if were to choose a bat, I am not sure how many of us would choose Fusion. Fusion may not loose out on the quality aspect, but will take a massive beating on perceived value and qulaity aspect.

I remember, when I was selling my new Fusion Superbest on the this forum, no one was willing to pay more than 120 for a superbest. In comparison the Warsop I just got sold for 150 (just 20 less than what I paid for it) and the Newbery Grizzley sold for 160.

Hope the above clarifies my point. The price in comparison/relation to the PERCEIVED value is not justified. I am not saying why he is selling for such a high price. Every manufacturer is free to price his products and every customer is free to make his choices and valuations.



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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2009, 12:58:35 PM »

Guys it is not as if this willow was available before it is a new addition to the range, I personally can not see the problem with it.  The price for the rest of the range has remained fairly constant
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2009, 03:12:54 PM »

The Superbest was better than grade 1 now something else is better again... hype or they have just dropped the grades down one to add a new bat at the top. What is the total quantity of clefts being bought per year, being friends with England coaches does not get you any better willow.
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2009, 04:36:14 PM »

Superbetter maybe! I'm not sure how Superbest was marketed in the first place
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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2009, 04:54:51 PM »

Fusion have always maintained that the Superbest is made from the "highest quality willow".

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Re: Fusion cricket bat prices . . . . . really a Skyer
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2009, 04:55:55 PM »

superbest is superbest because james says it is, it is not exceptional to look at he just thinks it will play better. Fusion appparently grade on performance but i am sure cosmetics comes into it some degree.

when buying 'superbest' you are trusting james to pick you out a piece of willow he thinks will perform better than ordinary grade 1
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