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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2014, 05:56:45 AM »

A 5 1/2 of any make is quite a big plane. The 1/2 denotes that it'll be wider than a standard width bed. It'd be a good all rounder for a carpenter but if you're just going to make bats then go smaller and lighter for more control. I'll be honest, the only times I've seen them on site are when I've worked with green oak framers who spend all day making big mortise and tenon joints. It's your money but I'd keep the extra 200 for something else like beer unless that's what you do!
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2014, 06:01:57 AM »

Cheers I'll just go for the no 3, maybe a small block plane would be useful?
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2014, 06:14:27 AM »

I don't really use one myself as I've found that the first stage of sanding moves a similar amount of wood. Not a bad tool to have though.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2014, 06:15:21 AM »

I might still have a small wooden block plane kicking about you can have John.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2014, 07:32:30 AM »

thanks e4sby, we can meet up for a net with ProCricket and Toenails and 123* when I come back if you fancy it and i'll give you payment for it.

The thing I dont want to do is try to make a bat without all the required tools and the bat turns out not to my liking and i get disillusioned. I dont mind if i have all the required tools and i turn out to be rubbish at batmaking, then i can just put it down to me not having the necessary skills and leave it to the experts!
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A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2014, 08:03:56 AM »

If I can find my draw knife you can have that too if you know someone who will sharpen it.

I'll have a look down for a net, I've got to put up with Dave every week now so an extra night won't make much difference
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2014, 09:17:21 AM »

Are these dimensions to small for the required drawknife?

The teardrop-shaped handles are cocked at 45 to the blade and nestle comfortably in your hands. The polished blade is 100 x 3 x 19mm(4" x 1/8" x 3/4").
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2014, 09:28:05 AM »

Definitely too small - you want a drawknife with a 10"/250mm blade
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2014, 09:39:27 AM »

I'm glad this topic is still going strong. 

A 4" drawknife is definitely too small John,  you'd need at lease 6" plus.

What are you wanting one for? General shaping or shoulders? I have a wide blade for general shaping and a narrow blade for shaping the shoulders,  seems to work for me.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2014, 01:02:11 PM »

Quick update on this, I've been speaking with a couple of people and have suggested the following, I'm not saying this is a consice list but it's what i would recommend.


1. Decide what edge size and shape your going for, trace it on some card and then cut out. You now have a template to transfer on to your bats edge.

2. Use this template and draw on the profile on each edge making sure you line both sides up to keep symmetrical.

3. Use a flat bottom plane/ travisher to reduce the edges down to the required profile. I'd keep a couple of mm away from the edge line, this can be tidied up later.

4. Shape the profile with a travisher (I'd use a travisher rather than a round bottom plane, the reason being is that travisher blades are wider and more uniformed), keep away from the spine and remove weight mainly from the shoulder and toe are, keeping most of the wood where the middle position will be.

5. Shape the spine to give the required profile shape. Again this can be done with ether a travisher/ plane/ drawknife/ spokeshave etc. whatever you're comfortable using.
 
6. Fine tune the shape down to the required weight (i normally make the bat 2oz lighter) this will allow for sanding stages/ twine/ grip/ stickers etc

7. Shape the shoulders using a narrow blade drawknife and then smooth out using a narrow spokeshave, also a good time to shape the handle, again use a spokeshave for this. Then use a rasp to finish the handle shape.

8. Rough sanding, use a good quality sandpaper around 120 grit to smooth out any humps/ bumps etc

9. Fine sanding, again use a good quality sandpaper (i find that Aluminium oxide paper is the best) start and work through the grits 150/ 180/ 220/ 224/ 320. 320 is as high as you need to go on this.

]0. Buffing, apply wax and buff with a cotton mop.

11. Bind using waxed cotton twine/ apply grid and stickers


Narrow drawknife - Any old narrow blade drawknife will do, older the better - the steel tends to hold a sharp edge for longer.

Wood Spokeshave - Again any old wooden spokeshave will do.

Record Jake Plane - I think they're normally called a number 4

Travisers - http://www.tomthackray.co.uk/shop/ OR http://travisher.com/travisher-kit/ (you get sent a block and you have to make the body)
 
Bench vice - Record number 5 (5 inch maximum mouth)

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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2014, 02:05:05 PM »

Wow..Ryan this a great bat making 101.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2014, 07:09:22 PM »

Just thought I'd share the beginnings of my set up...

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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2014, 07:27:52 PM »

Just thought I'd share the beginnings of my set up...




Looks good Rob, only thing missing is a travisher IMO.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2014, 07:32:09 PM »

Looks good Rob, only thing missing is a travisher IMO.

Yeah that's the final thing on the list - first hand ones are pretty pricey though, been keeping an eye out for 2nd hand ones but they also seem to be like gold dust.
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Re: A quick guide to making your first bat
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2014, 07:55:53 PM »

Cheapest I've found is around 40 quid. Check out the http://www.tomthackray.co.uk/shop/  link 
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