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England's ODI keeper
« on: April 10, 2013, 03:49:38 PM »

A look at Kieswetter's fall and the possible future of his career and position in the England team...

http://wp.me/p380Xy-81

Do you agree with the title statement? Should Buttler be a serious contender for the job despite not being the No.1 keeper at his county?
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 03:51:09 PM »

Link doesn't work!
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 03:52:55 PM »

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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 03:53:56 PM »

Yep me too now! Al; a bit meh again without actually saying much!
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 04:02:53 PM »

Yep me too now! Al; a bit meh again without actually saying much!

It does read fairly lackluster! One of those that seemed like a good idea and sounded alright in my head but didn't really go down on e-paper very well sadly.
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 04:24:54 PM »

I saw Chris Read practiceing behind the stumps at Trent Bridge yesterday.......he looked very, very good for an old boy, who by ODI standards is supposed to be passed it!
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 04:26:13 PM »

Wouldn't really class Tresco, Solanki or Colly as keepers either. They just stood in when needed.

Give the job to Butler. We all know that Foster/Read are far superiour glovemen but those days have gone. Pick one player and stick with him if you are going to ignore Prior.
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 09:54:02 PM »

I agree give someone a real go at cementing a place. It seems a position that players don't get a real chance.
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 02:18:27 PM »

For one day cricket Buttler is probably the right man for the job - England want him in the side for his ability with the bat in the closing overs and there really isn;t a pure batting spot available with Cook, Bell, Trott, KP, Morgan and Root already competing for five spots.  His keeping is not great but he'll improve...
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2013, 07:37:11 AM »

buttler or bairstow
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2013, 09:40:09 AM »

If you want your blog to develop into something that people not on the forum will actually read it would be advisable to do abit more research before a new blog post. Not only did you miss out the 'e' in Steven Davies' name but you also stated that Solanki was still at Worcestershire. Also you have a link which says "Have your say on the Forum, click here!" and yet because you don't really make a point, nobody can really have their say. Your blog post was very descriptive and didn't really include much analysis or a judgement.

I don't mean to offend you with any of these comments, you had the basis for a good blog post but missed out the nitty gritty that would have made it good.
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 09:43:29 AM »

On the nitty gritty and because you've previously asked for advice, here is a thought.

Instead of a fairly banal piece on Kieswetter's chances of an immediate recall, why not look at some of the other issues thrown up by this situation.  For example, the club vs country debate?  Should Somerset give Buttler the gloves and bat Kieswetter at five or six, as that is what England would clearly prefer, or should they pick their own side and to hell with England?  You could expand this to take in similar debates in other sports (Rugby and Soccer), the perceived issues with players kept away from their counties but not used by England etc...
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2013, 08:56:04 PM »

For one day cricket Buttler is probably the right man for the job - England want him in the side for his ability with the bat in the closing overs and there really isn;t a pure batting spot available with Cook, Bell, Trott, KP, Morgan and Root already competing for five spots.  His keeping is not great but he'll improve...

This is a valid point that England have such a solid batting unit why not go for a proper out and out keeper? James Foster has for probably a decade been the best keeper in England and you could argue that he is one of the best out and out keepers in world cricket. I honestly also think his batting is good enough to bat at 7 in a one day line up. He makes things happen and his ability standing up to the stumps is second to none. It will never happen but I for one think it should happen if your not going to pick prior.
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2013, 09:23:37 PM »

Should Somerset give Buttler the gloves and bat Kieswetter at five or six
He's been batting at 3 in the 4 day game - I wonder if that's a long term thing?
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Re: England's ODI keeper
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 06:54:10 AM »

This is a valid point that England have such a solid batting unit why not go for a proper out and out keeper? James Foster has for probably a decade been the best keeper in England and you could argue that he is one of the best out and out keepers in world cricket. I honestly also think his batting is good enough to bat at 7 in a one day line up. He makes things happen and his ability standing up to the stumps is second to none. It will never happen but I for one think it should happen if your not going to pick prior.

Well, you'd have to pick said keeper to bat at six really, given that none of the likely picks as bowlers would be batting there (Bresnan, Woakes, Broad and Swann are all decent but not quite that decent, and I suspect that the two possible all round options, Wright and Patel are not first picks). 

As for Foster, I agree that he has been somewhat unlucky in his career; he could have played (further) Test cricket when Tim Ambrose came into the side but missed out, as he did to Paul Nixon in the one day stuff.  But it would be a backwards step now.
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