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kouservice

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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2013, 08:53:11 PM »

IPL and t20 in general is adored out there simply because they prefer the ball flying out the park compared to a skillful spell of seam or spin bowling.

    In one interview Sachin was telling an incident, his son always wants to hit a six.  "He said hitting a six is not bad, but if you would keep the ball down, you get more chances of scoring."

 In the T20 era we have forgotten to respect the good balls and just hit out on any deliveries.    A batsman can use a + 3 lbs bat, reason he is strong. Then why cant a bowler ball with a 7 oz ball if he is stronger ??
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2013, 03:03:48 PM »

I think Indians simply prefer the glamour of batting with people like Yuvraj and Laxman who appear somewhat sloth like are admired adoringly, while guys like srinath, khan and current seamers who slog their guts out always seem to cop the flack when India don't perform.
 IPL and t20 in general is adored out there simply because they prefer the ball flying out the park compared to a skillful spell of seam or spin bowling.

Agree.... we in India prefer the glamour of batting than bowling. I have friends from Pakistan as well and I have noticed that they idealise bowlers more than batsmen? In India we idealise batsmen more than bowlers ..its just inherent in Indians.
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 09:41:39 AM »

now... wat if india and pakistan joined up o.o
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 11:37:25 AM »

now... wat if india and pakistan joined up o.o

That will be a major mistake. We already have a huge cricket playing population and due to this a huge number of upcomming talents drops out at early stage. Reasons are obvious, politics, money, competition , luck etc etc...
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2013, 03:30:04 PM »

The pitch for 1st Test will kill any young cricketer's dream of becoming a fast bowler ..
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2013, 11:38:38 AM »

now... wat if india and pakistan joined up o.o
Political nightmare...
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2013, 11:44:42 AM »

well, I'd pay to see the results, lets put it that way ;)
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2013, 09:32:23 PM »

In 2nd Innings ( India vs Aus test), out of 93 overs ( Indian bowling),  spinners bowled 90  :( ................ 
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2013, 04:37:43 AM »

Back in the day when Mohammed Sami was playing , Waqar Younis or Ramiz Raja was commentating on the reason why he was quick . The tape ball or tennis ball cricket prevalent in Pakistan needs a quick arm action to gather any pace and this quicker arm action when using a cricket ball translates to even more speed . Furthermore there was a similar explanation to how Malinga's action evolved on cricinfo . He used to play tennis ball cricket by the beach and learned over time that a sideways slingy release was more useful to generate pace against the breeze from the sea than the classical release . He was also an excellent swimmer infact the best in his village which aided him to develop strong musculature suitable to cope with his slingy and potentially injury causing action.

I also think India as a country most everyone wants to be a batsman or want to bat. Kids from an early age want to be like Tendulkar or Sehwag, we have never really had real good fast bowlers which can serve as role models for these kids. From club school teams all the way to bigger club teams the kids much rather bat then go out there and bowl.
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2013, 01:04:38 PM »

Reactivating an old topic, btw new to this forum..

During the days when I used to play for State U-15, U-19 days I have seen quite a few quick ones up North especially in Punjab when we used to tour these states for matches. Not many down south of India.. So, maybe the food culture and the weather do have a role to play for a fast bowler??

Alas, none of these guys were interested in pursuing and making a career in cricket.. Would have quit the next time we tour the same state..
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2013, 01:08:12 PM »

the pitches in india destroy quick bowlers. Why would you pursue a craft which makes you run in 40 degree(celcius) heat bowl on a dust pit and get smashed to all corners of the field because the only movement you get is with the curry you have after the game.
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2013, 01:19:27 PM »

because the only movement you get is with the curry you have after the game.

 :D :D :D

Well that's true with pitches in Pakistan as well, no? But they still end up producing a couple of good ones every era..
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2013, 01:32:22 PM »

:D :D :D

Well that's true with pitches in Pakistan as well, no? But they still end up producing a couple of good ones every era..

true but in India batsmen are more revered.
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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2013, 01:36:27 PM »

I know diet has been discussed but ruled out because Peter Siddle is a veggie.

But how do the diets still compare? Siddle has a full time team of nutritionists when with Australia, so will be taking shakes etc etc to get missing nutrients.

Siddle became a veggie in 2012, so was already established as a fast bowler and will have built up his muscle strength.
What is a junior indian veggie eating? I doubt they're getting all the required nutrients to build up enough strength to be a 90mph bowler.

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Re: Why cant India produce world class fast bowlers ?
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2013, 02:28:24 PM »

It's been touched on in this thread.  It's because every young player in India wants to be Sachin.  Now they want to be Kohli.

Where are the fast bowling heroes?

As a slight aside, it's good to see Duncan Fletcher belnding the side he wants.  Younger players all round, fast bowlers (Yadav, Shami) and multi-purpose cricketers (Ashwin, Jadeja).  Hopefully we'll see a much more competitive side next summer in the UK...
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