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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #240 on: November 25, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »

Surely Compton will be flown in?
That would be beyond this Eng set up (i.e. in their push for improved 1% across 200 different places, they miss the bleeding obvious) - there is more chance of Rob Key being pulled out of the Sky Commentary box...
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #241 on: November 25, 2013, 02:03:42 PM »

More fuel for the fire if true

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/story/692487.html?CMP=chrome


Shane Warne generated story. The key thing is Bailey was tight lipped on the subject and didn't go into what he may of said to Anderson first to generate the comment. I doubt even Anderson would threaten to punch Bailey without some provocation.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #242 on: November 25, 2013, 02:11:45 PM »

Pah! This is all detracting from a good Aussie win. They'll always sledge, and we know we're going to cop it, so giving a bit back and forth is just the way it is (whether you like it or not - I don't happen to, but it ain't going to stop).

Best thing for England now is to stay out of the press, get into the nets and give a bit back to the Aussies in the field when we're actually competing!
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #243 on: November 25, 2013, 02:14:14 PM »

Surely Compton will be flown in?

That's all we need. Let's crawl at 1 an over for 2 hours before getting out for jack all. Given the highlight of his career was putting NZ to sleep on lifeless decks I would prefer to go left field and get Moeen Ali in. Gives us the option of playing 4 seamers and having a more than handy spinner if required. Fight fire with fire.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #244 on: November 25, 2013, 02:29:27 PM »

Moeen is not ready. As much as I think he's great, I wouldn't throw him in at this point.
I think Compton is a good shout, at least he won't back down. I expect he has burnt his bridges however.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #245 on: November 26, 2013, 01:36:20 AM »

Is Bell not the next best suited to bat at 3? His technique is as good as it gets, he played some very dangerous balls excellently, he's got experience and track record and importantly is not likely to get ruffled and make an error of judgement due to it.

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #246 on: November 26, 2013, 03:15:56 AM »

Moeen is not ready. As much as I think he's great, I wouldn't throw him in at this point.
I think Compton is a good shout, at least he won't back down. I expect he has burnt his bridges however.

Compton is very much a like for like replacement for Trott.

Both Saffers who love to graft rather than thrill.

Exactly what is needed at #3 in a series like this.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #247 on: November 26, 2013, 03:17:42 AM »

Shane Warne generated story. The key thing is Bailey was tight lipped on the subject and didn't go into what he may of said to Anderson first to generate the comment. I doubt even Anderson would threaten to punch Bailey without some provocation.

And how's Andy Flower, the sanctimonious client?

 "That's why we draw the line with regard to sledging, because you never know what's happening in another team's dressing room behind closed doors".

 Yeah, no problems retard. Threatening to punch George Bailey in the face is obviously well behind that line of moral superiority you've set then?
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #248 on: November 26, 2013, 03:29:43 AM »

In fairness Vic I think flower was referring to comments off field in the media not 'sledging' on the field.

I personally don't like off field media comments like Warner made (or Vaughn for that matter). On field, they're big boys, they'll work it out.

As an Aussie it does appear as though it's only sledging when we do it.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #249 on: November 26, 2013, 03:35:54 AM »

Let us not suddenly re-write history here, Trott is a serial sledger who made comments about both Warner's and Haddin's mental state during the last series...going as far as to ask Haddin if his daughter would let him play.

He deserved whatever he copped, and he's certainly no martyr.

Having said that, I do sincerely hope he gets through his difficulties as quickly as possible.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #250 on: November 26, 2013, 04:51:35 AM »

Let us not suddenly re-write history here, Trott is a serial sledger who made comments about both Warner's and Haddin's mental state during the last series...going as far as to ask Haddin if his daughter would let him play.

He deserved whatever he copped, and he's certainly no martyr.

Having said that, I do sincerely hope he gets through his difficulties as quickly as possible.

I think you have taken this topic personally. Any reference or link of what you accused Trott of doing (comments about Haddin's daughter)?
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #251 on: November 26, 2013, 05:48:20 AM »

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #252 on: November 26, 2013, 06:32:54 AM »

Back on track boys... We have all had our chance to put our points of view across and now it's time to talk cricket and not hurl mud at one another
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #253 on: November 26, 2013, 07:51:23 AM »

I think we are being distracted by the sledging. all teams do it in different ways, anyone thinking otherwise is naive.
this eng team is certainly no angel.

more interesting is Gideon Haigh in the times today...

Pontings autobiography depart therelative sunniness of most of the story as he articulates thought processes into which he slipped towards the end of his career, feeling one innings from oblivion, struggling to hold doubt at bay. As he says: I had heard sports psychologists talk about the little voice that sits on athletes shoulders as they compete. Its a negative voice, one that says youre no good, that you cant win, thats it not worth it, that you should give up. The great athletes are able to ignore that little voice, or tell it to go away . . . I couldnt get rid of the little (No Swearing Please) at the end. At last Ponting told his wife: Im not sure I can do this any more. I dont think I can keep putting myself through it. Its easy to imagine the same sentiments in Jonathan Trotts mouth. Gideon Haigh is a cricket columnist for The Australian
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #254 on: November 27, 2013, 12:06:10 PM »

Honest take on the first test...and from the perspective of a die hard English fan.

http://rightarmover.com/the-gabba-australian-supremacy-and-english-humble-pie/
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