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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2013, 03:06:13 AM »

Storm in a tea cup alright.  So Clarke said a few things to Anderson when he was desperate to get in and enjoy winning a test match - a feeling which, lets face it, he has not been able to enjoy for quite some time now - its hard to see why this gets anyone at all worked up.

The Aussies and their crowd get stuck in to Stuart Broad.  He bowls well as a result (note to Flower - that's the way to do it! we had always wondered y'know...)

Warner says something about Trott.  He was not to know about the background issues and even if he was, any sin is of being an ignorant bogun - which he would be mouth open or shut, lets face it - this is hardly a diplomatic incident (though Warner is more or less alone in being able to dish it out, but never to take it back).

All of this is, well, kind of meh.  It reminds me of a comment made to me in a game earlier this year when I was playing with a cast on my hand.  Said comment amounted to a query as to whether my medical insurance covered amputation - and the bowler was the first to buy me a pint afterward.

Lets all grow up, eh?

Firstly, it is BogAn not Bogun.

Warner is indeed a Bogan and should not have said what he said in they presser...publically bagging a fellow cricketer in the media is crass and uncalled for.

However, insinuating that Warner can give it out, but cannot take it is utter (No Swearing Please)....show me even a skerrick of evidence where Warner has run crying to umpires and the authorities like this England combo, who up until yesterday were pooping on their Australian opponents at every opportunity and now that the boot is on the other foot, are crying like stuck pigs to the authorities.

I mean, Mr Motor Mouth Anderson complaining about sledging, FFS!?! Pot. Kettle. Black.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2013, 03:47:39 AM »

We've got a cricket chat room at work (about 200'people in it on an average day and more if a test is on), and most people agreed that actually far from being fine and dandy sledging has no place on the cricket field anymore. Kids and players see these incidents and copy thm on a Saturday/Sunday with coaches who,also allow and teach them these  things. Funny/witty banter is universally accepted as beneficial to the game but when someone finds it offensive then it shouldn't happen. Of course a couple of people chipped in with 'it's a man's game ' 'it's happened since time begun ' but were quickly rebuffed by the majority with 'if we left things 'as they'd always been we'd live in caves still, time and society moves on'.

Just thought it was interesting to see so many come out and finally say they'd had enough of sledging on the tv and on Saturday afternoons

Do they want a hug and a fresh pot of tea. I'll say it again, sledging has never killed anyone a ball travelling at 120+ kmh has. Do we then stop bouncers......and yes someone has died when the ball hit them in the chest where there is no protection just in case you were going down the helmet argument.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2013, 06:48:37 AM »

However, insinuating that Warner can give it out, but cannot take it is utter (No Swearing Please)....

The WAlkabout Incident?
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2013, 08:27:22 AM »

I quite like the idea of taylor, any short stuff will be miles over his head.

There was some logic that said short players were better against fast bowling for this reason. Based on the success Allan lamb had against the great windies sides. Tall players tend to stand tall and eventually get pinned, ie. Hick . That said I don't rate Taylor at all.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2013, 08:42:36 AM »

Do they want a hug and a fresh pot of tea. I'll say it again, sledging has never killed anyone a ball travelling at 120+ kmh has. Do we then stop bouncers......and yes someone has died when the ball hit them in the chest where there is no protection just in case you were going down the helmet argument.

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Ah the 'it's happened for years so all is fine' or the 'man up, it's a mans game' point. Maybe we should follow football a bit more ??

Well it is an office this forum is based in so maybe they aren't all hardy manual workers, doesn't invalidate their opinion though as most of them love the game. I asked them what they thought about sledging and banter, was there a difference etc and that's (generally and rounded up) the majority opinion of a fairly large group. Dismiss it if you want but it just proves not everyone thinks like your nd you are no more correct than them. Not one person thought witty, intelligent banter shouldn't be allowed but personal digs and anything just brainless should be.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2013, 10:09:28 AM »

Neither does it win you a test match, as Botham says, bowling batting and fielding does...... discussion about it does however provide a nice thick smoke screen to hide behind.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2013, 10:27:26 AM »

Ah the 'it's happened for years so all is fine' or the 'man up, it's a mans game' point. Maybe we should follow football a bit more ??

Well it is an office this forum is based in so maybe they aren't all hardy manual workers, doesn't invalidate their opinion though as most of them love the game. I asked them what they thought about sledging and banter, was there a difference etc and that's (generally and rounded up) the majority opinion of a fairly large group. Dismiss it if you want but it just proves not everyone thinks like your nd you are no more correct than them. Not one person thought witty, intelligent banter shouldn't be allowed but personal digs and anything just brainless should be.

That I will agree. No personal attacks. I know u will bring up Clarke but as far as I am concerned he was backing up his man as any captain is expected.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2013, 01:15:53 PM »

The WAlkabout Incident?

I don't understand your point?

Root mouthed off - Warner readjusted Root's attitude problem.

Root has behaved himself ever since, as he realises that everybody knows that he got his head caved in for being a smart (No Swearing Please).

Root is unlikely to mouth off to anybody ever again.

I think everyone is a winner in this instance.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2013, 01:26:58 PM »

I don't understand your point?

Root mouthed off - Warner readjusted Root's attitude problem.

Root has behaved himself ever since, as he realises that everybody knows that he got his head caved in for being a smart (No Swearing Please).

Root is unlikely to mouth off to anybody ever again.

I think everyone is a winner in this instance.

What decsription of events have you read?!?

Root, drinking amongst the England players, put a multicoloured afro on his chin, in response to England lads giving his boyish looks stick for "not being able to grow a beard"

Warner (pissed off at England after recent events no doubt) went over and punched him, apparently he thought he was taking the piss out of Hashim Amla - Warners fellow countryman and spiritual brother oh wait, he has no connection to Amla outside of they play the same sport as a living.

You have requested evidence several times when an Australian player has been questioned. Please provide evidence of Roots attitude problem, and then evidence of this problem being gone now Warner punched him.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2013, 02:38:57 PM »

What decsription of events have you read?!?

Root, drinking amongst the England players, put a multicoloured afro on his chin, in response to England lads giving his boyish looks stick for "not being able to grow a beard"

Warner (pissed off at England after recent events no doubt) went over and punched him, apparently he thought he was taking the piss out of Hashim Amla - Warners fellow countryman and spiritual brother oh wait, he has no connection to Amla outside of they play the same sport as a living.

You have requested evidence several times when an Australian player has been questioned. Please provide evidence of Roots attitude problem, and then evidence of this problem being gone now Warner punched him.

Unlike Flintoff's constant moronic (and many of the clowns on this site) "it is going to be 10-0...Australian will never win another test again" statements, I was merely taking the piss.

You can take that hook out of your mouth now, cause you took the bait.

I don't really care what led Warner to belt Root in the mouth - Warner is a bogan from housing commission. My care factor for him is next to zero. In fact, if you go over my posting history on this site, you will find that I have had a consistent ambivalence towards Dave Warner.

He may be able to belt a ball out of site, but he is a bloke of limited intellect and even less class.

But this whole holier than thou attitude of English cricket fans...especially attempting to paint that insidious slime ball Anderson as an innocent victim (when the normally placid Mike Hussey nominates you as the worst sledger in international cricket, it doesn't say much about your character), then I can only laugh at the hypocrisy and double standards practiced by myopic English cricket fans.

Get your collective heads out of your Kyber pass, you have a player in your squad who was punching on while out on the turps only a couple months ago and has not been sanctioned by ECCB AT ALL. If he was an Australian cricketer, it would have been an international incident made out of it.

The embarrassing silence of the Indian supporters on cricinfo after the above incident occurred was utterly shameful, I might add, considering they rip into anything and everything that Oz cricketers get up to.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2013, 03:04:10 PM »

Root mouthed off - Warner readjusted Root's attitude problem.
Root has behaved himself ever since, as he realises that everybody knows that he got his head caved in for being a smart (No Swearing Please).
Root is unlikely to mouth off to anybody ever again.
I think everyone is a winner in this instance.

So a few questions - firstly were you there to hear Root mouth off? What did he say that warranted being punched in the face?

So if you mouthed off to me and I punched your lights out, would that make it a winning result all round? That is an attitude I hate! With a statement like that, you are showing yourself to be a total ......  :(
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2013, 03:09:03 PM »

as much as warner is a (no swearing please) he had no right to hit root, as he was joking round with team mates, from the reports from the media at least was the it was unprovoked, warner was punished, lets  move on.

on the note of the england side bres hit 57* and took 4 for for the epp, good enough to prove hsi fitness??
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2013, 03:13:01 PM »


You can take that hook out of your mouth now, cause you took the bait.


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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2013, 03:44:36 PM »

Ahhh very well done.

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2013, 04:41:54 PM »

Warner is a div who uses his brashness where talent should be. He is a fill in until Australia find a true world-class opener again.

Clarke was threatening and I think that is too far. Yes, sledge about talent, but to directly threaten is over the line.  What next? I'll see you in the car park later. Bring a bat as I'll have a stump!

Anderson is a talker and if he was threatening too, then he should be equally reprimanded. Clarke was unfortunate that he was heard on the stump mic.

They all really need to move on now.
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