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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2014, 12:21:46 PM »

This may be a slight flaw with their business model - as I'm sure the last thing they want is for their customer to not be happy with their purchase, especially when using the best of the best clefts.

So maybe it would suit them and the customer better if these crown clefts(which I presume are limited) were saved only for bespoke orders - so that the customer is getting something that they are completely happy with. I don't know what the price differences are, however if you're paying a lot for a crown cleft then the customer should expect the bat to be impressive.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 12:21:59 PM »

Aren't Crowns around 350/400?
yes they are.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2014, 12:23:19 PM »

400 I think they are, was mentioned on another thread which is not bad when off the shelf bats cost 400+
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2014, 12:24:54 PM »


Then that would be a bespoke not a custom.

Customs are cheaper than bespoke as it entails less time in the design stage. You get a chose of a few set spines, edges, and concaving. And then add your weight, the density of cleft And it's is calculated to size. And then cut.

Bespoke, is designed form the off on cad, to your spec.
And this why I have paid the extra for bespoke on my bats as I get to see a 3d cad drawing off said bat, and say "hmmm take some wood from here, move to there, make this bigger, that smaller. Etc until I'm happy with the design.

Stand corrected :)

To get a big bat for 2'6 is a real ask. The other bat looks a freak! I'm pretty sure the b3 will open up. Most I have seen go really well.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2014, 12:28:24 PM »

Stand corrected :)

To get a big bat for 2'6 is a real ask. The other bat looks a freak! I'm pretty sure the b3 will open up. Most I have seen go really well.

If the other bat is as per its stickers then it's an Indian made G3 bat made for Kingsgrove... Their bottom of the range bats.

Not sure if that's what it is though that's why I asked
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2014, 12:31:38 PM »

This may be a slight flaw with their business model - as I'm sure the last thing they want is for their customer to not be happy with their purchase, especially when using the best of the best clefts.

So maybe it would suit them and the customer better if these crown clefts(which I presume are limited) were saved only for bespoke orders - so that the customer is getting something that they are completely happy with. I don't know what the price differences are, however if you're paying a lot for a crown cleft then the customer should expect the bat to be impressive.

Agree - it's an extra 25 for a bespoke over a custom. That's not much to include on a crown cleft. Then again it's a personal service and time is limited. Don't remember GN/Kooks/GM offering bespoke design as standard their 350/400+ bats.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2014, 12:32:31 PM »

How much extra is it for a crown cleft does anyone know? I saw the price on the website for a custom v bespoke and for the extra IF you were paying that amount of money anyway then a bespoke sounds like the right route to take.

I think the wife might boot me out if I said I were getting a bespoke B3.

Anyone have the good doctors phone number? ;)


It would be an interesting convo if you phoned him this week. He's on a stag do in Vegas, so I'd guess he be highly intoxicated. Lol
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »

Don't remember GN/Kooks/GM offering bespoke design as standard their 350/400+ bats.

Of course not, however B3 base their business model on making custom bats where they don't have to take the retail mark ups in to account and these are the issues that come with producing custom bats to order which I found out with Vantage. As the grading of willow was mostly down to looks of the blade and there was a minimum amount of grains that a bat would have - which I guess is similar to these crown clefts, being the perfect clefts. Whereas when you're making bats with a limited supply of the best clefts - it's hard to produce big looking bats at low weights constantly due to the natural make up of the clefts.

So to get the best out of their best blades, I think it would be better for them to solely make bespoke bats with their best clefts - mainly to keep customer satisfaction at its highest, as that is likely to bring returning custom.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2014, 12:39:52 PM »

Remember guys that the bats is only 2.6 (2.3 without stickers and grip), it would depend how much concaving there is in comparison to the bat along side. The spine and edges are also a lot thicker at the top.

I'll drop the office an email and see what they say.

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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2014, 12:46:08 PM »

at 2.6 it looks like a beast of a bat size wise, even if it is a bit hard off the mallet it will come good eventually.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2014, 01:03:49 PM »

The kings bat is a GN and not an off the shelf one.
Don't get me wrong, I designed the shape of the bat, I just assumed crown willow would be similar to legend willow here and that even at that weight would still achieve a biggish bat without being huge. It's not a huge drama as I bought it more for a look than something I expected to use. I am not bagging the brand because I can see the passion they have for it and some of the products look terrific, it's just not for me I don't think.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2014, 01:08:46 PM »

Thought it looked a bit more special that a Kingsport  ;)
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2014, 01:28:29 PM »

Kingsport went pretty well for Craig Simmons, just hard to find in my weight.
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2014, 04:18:12 PM »

Bumble has come out of retirement??  ;)

Haha! Younger version I'm afraid! Has a bright future of him but needs to perform this season!
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Re: New crown custom
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2014, 05:16:43 PM »

Looks like two very different bats, both size wise and profile?
And it doesn't tap up that well?

Think I'd be a little miffed!
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