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shoab68

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Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« on: July 02, 2014, 11:56:33 AM »

Hi Guys,

So after a months delay finally i got my custom made Rubber insert laminated bat from Chase cricket. After experimenting glued laminates I wanted to test Rubber insert laminate and following Dave(procricket) advice i placed my order with chase cricket.

I will do a brief review about service and Bat.

Service

Daniel at chase is a very busy man, hardly he gets time to reply emails which is really annoying. 2 weeks turnaround was promised but they took 6 weeks to make my bat.
Overall their service is very slow if not poor.

Bat

I requested Daniel to make me a Rubber inserted laminate as per following specs.

Willow: Grade 2
Weight: 2.10 to max 2.12
Edges : I requested 42-45 mm
Other specs: Rest i left it to Daniel

I received the bat with dead weight of 2.10, bat is well made and the stickers looks classy, the disappointing thing is the 36 mm edge size against the requested minimum 42mm.
Bat has a great trampoline effect as you'd expect from a rubber insert laminate, balance and pickup is fantastic. Handle is Oval and looks good quality.

Overall impressed with the bat.

Will upload pics tonight, i know the forum rule, no pics not happened but please give me few hours.

Thanks for your attention and all queries welcomed.



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« Last Edit: July 02, 2014, 06:57:45 PM by shoab68 »
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 12:18:46 PM »

I think an edge size of that magnitude is quite a big ask in all honesty so you may have been made something thats within the realms of being realistic without having a cleft thats over-dried in terms of moisture content.
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 12:29:05 PM »

42mm is not that big. Mine has edges that size, and it weighs 2lb 10oz, with two kook xtreme grips, scuff sheet and edge tape. I'm sure you can get those edges on a bat that is 2lb 12oz, especially as the amount of concaving wasn't specified. With the right profile and wood density, it isn't that hard even on a non-laminate. Look at Kippax, they are doing 50mm edges on 2lb 8oz bats!
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 12:51:03 PM »

All depends how dense and how much rubber there is in the bat really. If its an enormouse dense piece of rubber then they've probably done pretty well to get the edges that big.

And the Kippax bats are that big because they don't have a spine! They're pretty much reversible.

Look forward to the pics.
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 12:51:55 PM »

Sorry but this is just wrong, I don't think these laminates should be allowed in any level of cricket.

what's next? Spring inserted laminates? I'll be very crossed if an oppo player used one of these against us.
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 12:53:41 PM »

Sorry but this is just wrong, I don't think these laminates should be allowed in any level of cricket.

what's next? Spring inserted laminates? I'll be very crossed if an oppo player used one of these against us.

Meh. I doubt he'll suddenly get a test call up (actually he might!) because all of a sudden he's scoring billions of runs. He's still got to hit the ball just like anyone else.
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 12:59:03 PM »

No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test  call up for the guy.

if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 01:02:45 PM »

No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test  call up for the guy.

if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?
And he hasn't even mentioned his jet propelled batting spikes!
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 01:05:15 PM »

Yes, we all agree it's an illegal bat that should only ever be used in the nets, however, aren't you just a tiny bit curious as to how well it works? I know I am. And as to what it looks like.

Roll it on, show us the pics!
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 01:17:51 PM »

Would love to see pics but i have to agree with others, i hope he only uses this in the nets. I know in our AUS comp that someone came out to bat with one of the carbon kookaburras from years ago and he was told to change his bat. Never understood the whole laminated thing. does someone wish to explain to me why it is done as you done see many for sale in AUS
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 01:25:59 PM »

I'm intrigued as to how much rubber is actually in the bat.

Is it just a thin sheet under the surface or is it basically a rubber block with a willow casing?
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2014, 01:26:22 PM »

Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.

As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2014, 01:39:01 PM »

Yes, I'm curious to see how it goes too - but only in the nets or mucking about with one out on the pitch.
Laminates are an unfair advantage of bat over ball, pure and simple. They shouldn't be permitted in any form of cricket.
Anyone who intends to pass off a laminate as a legal bat should take a long hard look at themselves, frankly.
Besides, using anything other than pure willow is against the Laws of cricket.
I don't know why we're even having the discussion.


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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2014, 01:41:08 PM »

No need to score billions of runs to get unfair advantage in a match , extra 10-20 runs can change the result of a match, that's all I care, not worried about his potential test  call up for the guy.

if he us getting no advantage and he still have to hit the ball what's the need to go thus length to make rubber inserted bats?

Trust me, if it increases his average by even 10 runs then I'll pay for it myself. It's not going to make a blind bit of difference.
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Re: Rubber Insert Laminate from Chase
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2014, 01:42:29 PM »

Carbon kookaburras are fine at club level aren't they?? I thought you could use them until they were dead.

As for a lam, who plays in a league where the umpires would:
A) be able to spot one?
B) do anything about it?

I think they are legal but this umpire was adamant that the bloke was gaining an unfair advantage, he needed all the help he could get...nicked off 3rd ball!

You woulnt be able to spot a Lam, the carbon were easy to spot as they had the full length artwork on the back. Still think the Lam is cheating but hope it serves him well
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