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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2014, 11:28:45 AM »

Do the bats feel the same in your hands? Seems unlikely to me...
Surprisingly similar, and I put this down to the positioning of the denser butterfly stain, which is quite high on the blade. While the power "bulge" is lower, the positioning of that seems to have created something remarkably close.

Now that may be far more luck that it is judgement, but Streaky is good, so he may have deliberately done it that way.
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2014, 12:02:42 PM »

Do the bats feel the same in your hands? Seems unlikely to me...

If you match the shape and the weight - they should pick up exactly the same.........
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2014, 12:16:09 PM »

If you match the shape and the weight - they should pick up exactly the same.........

Really? That's interesting. Will two clefts of the same density, cut to the exact same shape, pick up exactly the same? Wood is a natural product and all that?
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2014, 12:35:48 PM »

Really? That's interesting. Will two clefts of the same density, cut to the exact same shape, pick up exactly the same? Wood is a natural product and all that?

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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2014, 01:54:32 PM »

Really? That's interesting. Will two clefts of the same density, cut to the exact same shape, pick up exactly the same? Wood is a natural product and all that?

Wood is natural, but is you take the natural variation out of the equation by matching the densities - the balance will be matched - providing the shape is the same.
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2014, 02:47:37 PM »

How was the wood density for the older bat determined? Just curious due it it's irregular shape compared to new clefts used for density calculation where they're first cut to same size.

Dipped it in water like Archimedes?
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2014, 04:13:45 PM »

Yes, I'd be interested to know that too. Wouldn't you have to remove the handle on the old bat first?

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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2014, 05:31:32 PM »

Wood is natural, but is you take the natural variation out of the equation by matching the densities - the balance will be matched - providing the shape is the same.

That assumes density is uniform across a cleft, doesn't it?
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2014, 05:52:25 PM »

Looks great, glad it turned out well! Got 2 bats to get mapped for future references, hopefully will be able to get the CAD numbers and share them, as they're two of my favourite profiles. :)
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2014, 06:29:24 PM »

Yes, I'd be interested to know that too. Wouldn't you have to remove the handle on the old bat first?

Weight and volume if you known the volume then weight and then density can be ascertained.

As Smokey unofficial apprentice and right hand badger the things we have calculated are great and a forward step in bat making.

Handles weight can play a factor too in the weight of the bat but BAT MAPPING is a form like no other


You could say get a picture of your players favorite bat and want a replica made....
In the past we talked about weight then density but cleft volume is more important in a shape.

Smokey has taught me very well and anything can be bat mapped but do not expect a 3lb bat to weight 2-7 as somebody asked recently it is theoretically impossible.

Most CnC reverse engineer things we or should i say Smokey is a pioneer and had brought the technology to anybody who wants it be it individual to small brands.



 
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2014, 07:11:34 PM »

If you match the shape and the weight - they should pick up exactly the same.........

Possibly - so long as the handles weigh the same - and have the weight distributed the same...
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2014, 07:16:51 PM »

But that's why we have man handles and can match the handle weight to suit the bat we are putting the handle set in too.
We also weight the grip to make sure this is factored into the equation too.

Volume is the key maybe smokey will speak again tomorrow he explains better than me!!!

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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2014, 07:20:35 PM »

But that's why we have man handles and can match the handle weight to suit the bat we are putting the handle set in too.
We also weight the grip to make sure this is factored into the equation too.

Volume is the key maybe smokey will speak again tomorrow he explains better than me!!!

My theory is come to the birthday see smokey in action.

Can't argue with that attention to detail. Handles are often overlooked IMO and can make a huge difference ;-)
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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2014, 07:22:57 PM »

Grips make a difference to even scuff sheets in the past we have made smaller ones by cutting them down for pro to get the right weight.

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Re: B3 bat mapping. How good is it?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2014, 08:57:15 PM »

Here are a couple of between pictures of the two bats to see how well B3 did the job.





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