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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2014, 09:20:44 AM »

I'm not angry, the question was asked if the handle shape of the screaming cat was being copied as well. Surely it's being copied if he wants the same bat?

And my response is we already have thicker handles so not reproducing anything mate...

We can make the same but already do possibly the thickest oval handle even Trescothick would be happy with ...
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2014, 09:22:12 AM »

So all your handle shapes are the same? A generic shape?
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2014, 09:30:53 AM »

I think Dave is saying that they don't have to copy the handle unless the customer asks them to. If the customer wants the handle suited to his style of play that can be done.
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2014, 09:35:42 AM »

It was asked if the handle of the screaming cat was being copied as well as the blade, it was a simple question I thought.
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2014, 09:43:50 AM »

It was asked if the handle of the screaming cat was being copied as well as the blade, it was a simple question I thought.


Your asking the wrong person, as chad,the guys who's bats they are, if he's having the handle copied on the scat rep or not. As ultimately it's upto him.



So many crossed wires in this thread now!
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2014, 09:46:05 AM »


Your asking the wrong person, as chad,the guys who's bats they are, if he's having the handle copied on the scat rep or not. As ultimately it's upto him.



So many crossed wires in this thread now!
I never asked the original question, I asked after B3 answered claiming they weren't copying anything. This seemed weird considering the guy was having his bat replicated ( copied )
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2014, 09:55:21 AM »

Either way handle wise interesting stuff, working with CAD but these days with plastic the geek in me likes the process!

Chad once it's available I'm sure will do a detailed review & if Dave could feedback on a reference number and cleft vs finished weight there I am sure will be forum orders a plenty - always liked the series 1 profile!
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2014, 10:03:40 AM »

Must admit that I dropped very lucky with the B3 that I got. It wasn't made for me as it was off the shelf, but it has a nice thick oval handle which is exactly what I like.  ;)
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2014, 10:04:05 AM »

I never asked the original question, I asked after B3 answered claiming they weren't copying anything. This seemed weird considering the guy was having his bat replicated ( copied )

The bottom line wasn't actually aimed at you.
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2014, 10:19:47 AM »

Surely it's a public forum?
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2014, 10:24:00 AM »

Wow it's got heated in here since I last looked!!

Let's stop all this talk of stiffness, shape and girth, we should just go back to admiring Chad's wood and the CAD representation of it!
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2014, 10:24:31 AM »

I love both profile Chad mate simply brilliant though of profiles I have been a big fan of both and love the fuller profile first and formost


I intend on finding out the volume of this and density you see the volume of wood looks big on the screaming cat profile I would have thought 2nd only to the 1271.

The wires have been crossed what I was supposed to say was the handle on a series 1 is not to dissimilar to the one on the 1271 one we have made a few times.

What I think is where seeing a return of the fuller profile bats with slightly smaller edges which I have always advocated due to us not middling the ball as much as we would all like.

The great thing about both bat mapping and bespoke is simple.

Let's say the profile is at 2-11 in a 400 cleft then if your desired weight is 2-9 we know that a 370 cleft will get this as with the 10 density to 1 ounce rule. Or you could bring the whole profile down by 3mm with a 400 cleft so there two ways of skinning a cat.

For us it all volumes and we can work anything from there. As for handles I have always maintained the weight in the handle is a factor in the bats weight too.

As for mapping it allows so much scope and possibilities almost any shaped can be mapped.

We are working on bowing techniques and moving forward I think bat mapping is part of the future in the way we do things.

Hope this clears things up

Tim recent mapping is a current favourite of mine too a real classy profile
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2014, 11:09:55 AM »

I would think edge size and spine size are taken from the straight not taking the bow of the bat into account

This is a good point. Both photo's show a bow in the blade, whereas Streaky's bitmap is a flat. This is particularly relevant to the spine as it gives the impression of it tailing away on the bitmap more than the photo's. Stick the bitmap image at a slight upward angle, going up towards the handle and the spine profile will indeed look similar and flatter in both cases.

Dave, I'm sure you have told me before but how is the bow put in? How will you get it to match the photos?
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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2014, 11:19:57 AM »

This is a good point. Both photo's show a bow in the blade, whereas Streaky's bitmap is a flat. This is particularly relevant to the spine as it gives the impression of it tailing away on the bitmap more than the photo's. Stick the bitmap image at a slight upward angle, going up towards the handle and the spine profile will indeed look similar and flatter in both cases.

Dave, I'm sure you have told me before but how is the bow put in? How will you get it to match the photos?

Bows are all about the beds under the press or you could press it in on a even bed and do it by eye.

It is a massive are i known the team have been working on and we had one of the best from the sub continent show us his thoughts on it and the best results.

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Re: B3 Bat Mapping (Laver and Screaming Cat)
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2014, 12:15:08 PM »

I'm in the less is more camp with bows. Very interesting that you've had advice from the sub continent though - good call IMO.
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