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Re: Amir
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2016, 02:07:04 PM »

He should be allowed to do whatever he wants to!
Was what Amir did wrong? Absolutely!! Was it serious in comparison to match mixing? Nowhere near as serious! It was wrong of Amir to do it, he got caught and was proved! But the guy was given an appropriate sentence. He did the crime and served the time!
He did NOT get a lifetime ban from cricket.....therefore he is within his rights to play cricket!!
I am 99.9% sure that he will not even consider doing the crime again, as he will be watched like a hawk. I am sure he has so much regret, but he can't turn the clocks back!!
And he will get some serious stick from fans when he plays, which he will just have to take on the chin I guess! That will be additional punishment that will no doubt be unwelcome but will be hard to avoid!


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Re: Amir
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 02:08:08 PM »

Anyone who thinks he was forced into cheating is deluded, he knew exactly what he was doing and benefitted from his cheating.

The fact he is back playing international cricket again, and earning good money from it is a kick in the teeth to all to see that play the game with the integrity it deserves. He should be kicked out of the game for good.
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Re: Amir
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2016, 02:31:12 PM »

I did it on the Millichamp thread and take no pleasure in having to do it again so early in the new year. Lynching time.....

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Re: Amir
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2016, 04:30:25 PM »

Does anyone remember the significance of his no ball? And what the result of the match was?

Without looking!

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Re: Amir
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2016, 04:34:26 PM »

Significance nothing

Pakistan got battered, broad scored a 100.
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Re: Amir
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2016, 04:44:56 PM »

Apart from the single off of it, indeed it made no difference to broad smashing it around everywhere for 169 i think it was and pakistan skittled for less than 80 and 150.

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Re: Amir
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2016, 05:54:08 PM »

I like to think i'm a fair bloke, but in this case there is no way he shouls be near the Pakistan side.

I don't buy all this "he was only 18" crap either. As an 18 year old he was playing cricket for his country (a dream for so many) but he threw this away by getting involved. Young or not you know right from wrong by age 18, and he abused his position as an international player by getting involved in spot fixing.

He is young enough to still make a career of cricket. Let the lying scum bag play domestic hit & giggle tournaments by all means, but after wasting his talent first time round to make some quick dishonest money he shouldn't be allowed to watch his national team, let alone playing for them!

Amir opted for spot fixing at the age of 18. Any other player representing the country at the age of 18 would have been truthful and honest. I would expect cunningness to creep in as someone grows older. Having committed a sin at such a young age i am not sure if this guy has no sense of morality or is he just a hardened criminal destined to bring more disrespect to the game.

Only PCB can pull such atrocious moves. Majority of the boards won't even choose players for the probables list if they have a tarnished reputation.
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Re: Amir
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2016, 06:16:52 PM »

I've already had a say on the Amir situation...from what I know of the case Amir gets a second chance,I don't like what he did for one minute and to me he will always be tarnished but the ICC set the punishment,and he has served it..a bit like being jailed for a year then you get out-you have paid your dues.The level of punishment he got is always up for debate.malik and kaneria  got life bans as did azar.....Amir was below their 'crimes' thou-not out and out match fixing.

Here's the thing thou with this case,if you are not from the same Country do you look at it differently?

I think I do.....if it was an England player convinced of the same would us England fans feel more betrayed and want a harder punishment than Amir got?
Interesting to think how England fans would react if one of our own got done.....
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Re: Amir
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2016, 06:46:29 PM »

Does anyone remember the significance of his no ball? And what the result of the match was?

Without looking!

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Not sure that should really make any difference overall.
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Re: Amir
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2016, 07:15:54 PM »

Why don't all you guys go after Marlon Samuels? Why is his case different? Is anyone sledging him?
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Re: Amir
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2016, 07:40:22 PM »

Where's the Marlon Samuel thread? Is it as current as Amir?
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Re: Amir
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2016, 10:34:35 PM »

Evening Gents, I've been following the forum for the past few months but felt like this topic was worth my 2 cents. A lot has been said about second chances, and while I agree that everyone deserves a second chance in life, I also feel that second chances wouldn't be needed if players knew that their actions would lead to them being banned from the game they love, for life.

Seems harsh, but if we made an example of Amir, we may just be able to stamp this sort of thing out.
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Re: Amir
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2016, 01:59:56 AM »

Why don't all you guys go after Marlon Samuels? Why is his case different? Is anyone sledging him?

It's been 5 years since his return, may be we forgot him  :D
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Re: Amir
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2016, 02:01:09 AM »

Where's the Marlon Samuel thread? Is it as current as Amir?


He was banned in 2008 for passing information about match condition to a bookie during WI vs IND ODI series. Below link gives you a timeline of match fixing activities since 2000 ...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/match-fixing-anniversary/content/story/464111.html
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Re: Amir
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2016, 01:07:36 PM »

Because Samuels never affected events on the field? Sport dies if it isn't perceived to be a true spectacle. Look at the tour de france, it's impossible to win it without being questioned now. Imagine how Stuart Broad felt when he found out the best innings of his life was devalued by the knowledge that the Pakistani bowlers had better things to do than concentrate on him.

Should cheats and fixers be banned for life? Yes, no doubt for me. Amir wasn't, so he'll come back, and he'll be the subject of much speculation for the rest of his career. Hopefully he doesn't make the same mistake again or cricket will look foolish.

As he is coming back, hopefully the ICC will be wise enough to use him for anti-corruption causes, similar to David Millar in cycling. Millar was accepted back after doping because of the outspoken anti-doping campaigner he became, unlike others who carried on denying it and stayed under doubt for the rest of their careers.
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