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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #315 on: March 07, 2017, 03:27:27 PM »

Smith has sold his 'mate' down the river by suggesting Handscombe told him to do it.

Pretty poor from Smith throwing newbie Handscomb under the bus though Handscomb didn't come out a saint either...
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #316 on: March 07, 2017, 03:56:30 PM »

Kohli basically called the Aussies cheats post match press conference (yes he didn't use the word).
Kohli and smith going at it in press conferences is becoming pretty entertaining

Imagine much more verbals before and during the next match.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #317 on: March 07, 2017, 04:01:18 PM »

Kohli basically called the Aussies cheats post match press conference (yes he didn't use the word).
Kohli and smith going at it in press conferences is becoming pretty entertaining

Imagine much more verbals before and during the next match.

yes i watched both press conferences and Kohli's was quite funny, twice he basically called Smith/the Aussies cheats but said 'i don't want to say the word but you know....'

then Smith says 'oh me and Virat just had a couple of conversations on the field nothing out of the ordinary....'

you can just imagine how they went down  ;) ;) ;)

3rd test is going to be spicy

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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #318 on: March 07, 2017, 04:39:36 PM »

Being India fan, very happy with the win. Some solid batting by Rahul on this pitch. This kid is talented and will get better. Hope he values his wicket more.
Very gripping and exciting game but conditions were horrific. Whether its a seamer friendly or spinner friendly track, it should have consistent bounce. How are you supposed to play a 145 KPH delivery which does not bounce more than 6 inches.
I feel ICC needs to step in and do something about how teams are taking home advantage to extreme. Teams are scoring more runs in ODI than in a test inning. Some might say the new generation cricketers dont have test match temperament but thats not the case. Same guys are scoring double, triple hundreds.
Maybe bilateral series should be played part at home and part away. Or have a neutral curator like neutral umpires. Test cricket is becoming test of how many you win rather than test of real cricketing skills.

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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #319 on: March 07, 2017, 04:44:41 PM »

All this bickering is pure drama. Watch after 30 days .. At IPL you will see a pic of Kohli-Starc smiling in RCB training and Smith & Ashwin planning their attack for Pune  :D :D :D
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #320 on: March 07, 2017, 05:06:22 PM »

Being India fan, very happy with the win. Some solid batting by Rahul on this pitch. This kid is talented and will get better. Hope he values his wicket more.
Very gripping and exciting game but conditions were horrific. Whether its a seamer friendly or spinner friendly track, it should have consistent bounce. How are you supposed to play a 145 KPH delivery which does not bounce more than 6 inches.
I feel ICC needs to step in and do something about how teams are taking home advantage to extreme. Teams are scoring more runs in ODI than in a test inning. Some might say the new generation cricketers dont have test match temperament but thats not the case. Same guys are scoring double, triple hundreds.
Maybe bilateral series should be played part at home and part away. Or have a neutral curator like neutral umpires. Test cricket is becoming test of how many you win rather than test of real cricketing skills.

You don't need ICC here. Not atleast in the case of Bangalore or Pune. BCCI interference in pitches should stop at the point where they ask curators to prepare wickets aiding team India. Curators know the soil composition and how much moisture is needed to ensure the pitch can hold for 4-5 days. In Pune the big fuss was due to BCCI getting involved and asking curators not water the pitch a day before the game. This resulted in a dust bowl and caused a major problem for team India.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #321 on: March 07, 2017, 05:21:14 PM »

You don't need ICC here. Not atleast in the case of Bangalore or Pune. BCCI interference in pitches should stop at the point where they ask curators to prepare wickets aiding team India. Curators know the soil composition and how much moisture is needed to ensure the pitch can hold for 4-5 days. In Pune the big fuss was due to BCCI getting involved and asking curators not water the pitch a day before the game. This resulted in a dust bowl and caused a major problem for team India.

Very ignorant if you think BCCI is the only board which does that. In some recently concluded test matches in NZ, SA, you could not differentiate which strip on the square is being used for the game. Thats how green they were. One of the NZ vs SA test pitch in SA was just uneven as B'lore pitch. Same were given to India in England during the last tour.
there are numerous instances recently. And the curators are not doing it, they just follow home team cricket board's direction.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #322 on: March 07, 2017, 05:34:24 PM »

Very ignorant if you think BCCI is the only board which does that. In some recently concluded test matches in NZ, SA, you could not differentiate which strip on the square is being used for the game. Thats how green they were. One of the NZ vs SA test pitch in SA was just uneven as B'lore pitch. Same were given to India in England during the last tour.
there are numerous instances recently. And the curators are not doing it, they just follow home team cricket board's direction.

I am not being ignorant here. BCCI recently has undergone transition where-in new administration has come in to replace the old administration. This kind of issues with pitches are addressed very quickly by the old administration (Srinivasan, Manohar, Anurag Thakur etc). New administration is a little flustered and they ended up giving out bad directions to curators. Pune pitch curator was apparently fined for bad pitch tag. I don't agree with that either, since he was just following instructions from someone at BCCI. This is clearly BCCI's doing and fault. ICC doesn't need to come in here and tell BCCI what is going wrong. BCCI can themselves look at their legacy and see how they used to handle these issues before and follow the same approach.

Bangalore pitch-curators know very well how to prepare the flattest batting track with a hint of spin. If BCCI had let them do their job then we would have clearly seen a 400+ score from either of the teams. Check the IPL scorecards - this is a pitch where teams score 175+ runs in 20 overs !!
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #323 on: March 07, 2017, 06:01:32 PM »

Rightly said, don't mind countries prepare pace or spin pitches, but bounce has to be consistent.
Saffas made green tops to negate Herath and Faf was open about it. But you can't have  a short pitched ball bouncing onto shoe height in cricket at any level let alone at international level. And yes, even 5th day of Test match is supposed to be played on a cricket pitch, not on ankle shooter strips.

To be fair to Aussies, they make the most neutral home pitches overall if you take the whole series into consideration. They provide teams with pace, spin, flat roads etc at various venues so good teams can really compete if they play well on some of the grounds if not on the one or two pacy grounds. Can't say that for the rest of the teams.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #324 on: March 07, 2017, 06:07:09 PM »

Warners decision still befuddles me - how is that out ever?
Miles down. Never in line. Clipping the stumps... Surely u give that not out & nobody is daft enough to review???
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #325 on: March 07, 2017, 06:27:45 PM »

To be fair to Aussies, they make the most neutral home pitches overall if you take the whole series into consideration. They provide teams with pace, spin, flat roads etc at various venues so good teams can really compete if they play well on some of the grounds if not on the one or two pacy grounds. Can't say that for the rest of the teams.
10-20 years ago they did, now they're all drop in pitches! In combination with the Kookaburra ball, possibly the worst test pitches going? Flat flat flat and lifeless compared to how they used to be. India just don't seem to be able to make their minds up, pitches for the England tour were excellent but every so often they go nuts and order up a pitch that's knackered by the end of the second day. Still think the home advantage apparently increasing is more than a little down to most away teams rocking up 10 days before the start of a series and playing one 3 day warm-up game against a lousy chairman's XI before going into a test.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #326 on: March 07, 2017, 06:47:54 PM »

@edge Agree, nowadays in Aus it is mostly flat roads...would love to see at least one juicy pacy pitch at Perth as in the old days and a turner at sydney, but times have changed with T20s advent ..
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #327 on: March 07, 2017, 09:08:37 PM »

Pretty poor from Smith throwing newbie Handscomb under the bus though Handscomb didn't come out a saint either...

From the replays it did look like Handscomb was pointing Smith towards the dressing room.

Doubt this was a isolated incident, maybe the cameras need to focus more on the players before they review to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #328 on: March 07, 2017, 09:31:56 PM »

Warners decision still befuddles me - how is that out ever?
Miles down. Never in line. Clipping the stumps... Surely u give that not out & nobody is daft enough to review???

I guess it comes down to the non-striker. Renshaw or Smith, not sure who are there at that time. It was probably a judgement call from Aussies which went wrong ...
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Re: India vs Australia Test series
« Reply #329 on: March 07, 2017, 09:54:48 PM »

I guess it comes down to the non-striker. Renshaw or Smith, not sure who are there at that time. It was probably a judgement call from Aussies which went wrong ...

Should have asked the dressing room  :D
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