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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2955 on: March 28, 2018, 02:18:20 PM »

Anyone else think England are now a great price to win the next Ashes series at 2/1? (I assume Betting chat is ok? - apologies if it is not)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2956 on: March 28, 2018, 02:20:43 PM »

Anyone else think England are now a great price to win the next Ashes series at 2/1? (I assume Betting chat is ok? - apologies if it is not)

Betting talk is fine mate.

I think the reason they are so short is because they're at home. I imagine they would have been hovering around 5/2 and 9/4 before this all kicked off anyway.

Smith will be back for the Ashes.
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« Reply #2957 on: March 28, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »

Cool.

And yeah I'm saying I think 2/1 is a huge price still. My understanding is that they have been this price for a while now (I checked immediately after the culmination of the most recent series).

However, Warner could well knock red ball cricket on the head?

Smith is going to be older & more out of nick

Aussies going to be careful of pushing the line in any form (youd hope)

In English conditions as we all know, it is a different ball game.

Myself I'd almost have the series as a pickem rather than Australia favs.
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« Reply #2958 on: March 28, 2018, 02:42:33 PM »

Warner won't play Test cricket again.

Smith may well be rusty, but he was (No Swearing Please) with the bat for years, now look a him. He'll be fine.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2959 on: March 28, 2018, 02:44:07 PM »

Probably right, but more than just the rustiness, the togetherness of the squad is altered etc. Think it will be quite significant myself
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2960 on: March 28, 2018, 05:32:36 PM »

The squad will heal by blaming the Bogun.
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« Reply #2961 on: March 29, 2018, 06:44:48 AM »

The squad will heal by blaming the Bogun.

That's a tad bogan of you to spell bogan as bogun isn't it ? Or is Bogun a name ? Or is it just a reference for Warner or Lehmann ?
.....it's hard to know , half the country are bogans/boguns !!!!  :D
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« Reply #2962 on: March 29, 2018, 01:31:39 PM »

That's a tad bogan of you to spell bogan as bogun isn't it ? Or is Bogun a name ? Or is it just a reference for Warner or Lehmann ?
.....it's hard to know , half the country are bogans/boguns !!!!  :D

Like to test our Aussie friends.  I think the squad will unite behind everyone not Davey Warner and he will find himself persona non grata from here forward.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2963 on: March 29, 2018, 01:46:08 PM »

Question to our Ozzie forumites - Before this was Warner actually disliked in Oz?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2964 on: March 29, 2018, 09:34:10 PM »

Are we going to be seeing a lot of Davey Warner eBay bargains?!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2965 on: March 30, 2018, 12:25:41 AM »

Question to our Ozzie forumites - Before this was Warner actually disliked in Oz?

No I didnt dislike him... I loved watching him bat when he was in form.. I dont know the man to be able to dislike him
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2966 on: March 30, 2018, 06:01:37 AM »

Question to our Ozzie forumites - Before this was Warner actually disliked in Oz?


I knew his whole family when i was a kid .
His parents are very humble , decent people .
His brother Steve was a top bloke and a good cricketer .
Dave was 7 yrs my junior ....i 'babysat' him regularly on bus trips on a tour of england when his parents /others needed a brake . Basically , he was immature for a 10 yr old ....but he was 10 so you take it with a grain of salt and think thats what 10yr old kids do . I found him to be nice and good company as long as he was in a good mood, and he listened to older peoples stories better than most kids his age  . If he didnt get his way he would cry at the drop of a hat and throw tantrums...again , he was 10 . But he did this stuff more than any young kid i have seen . But , (broken record here) he was only 10 .
Dave had a habit of finding guys at his brothers cricket matches and begging them to give him throwdowns . He'd do a handful left handed , then a handful right handed and looked as good doing it either way . He sub fielded on our eng tour when many people were sick ... and did a great job . He had a big arm for a midget kid !
I think , obviously , kids change into adults , they mature in intelligence and wisdom . However , many personality aspects stay with you through life. Some of the traits , both positive and negative , I still see (from a distance mind) in Dave today .
A lot of the public perception about him is probably right , but some of it, at least, cant be . There was a gentle , kind side to him as a kid which im sure is still there . And there was a side to him that made me want to strangle him . Perhaps the more things change the more they stay the same . I'll leave it up to anyone reading this to make of my comments what they will.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2967 on: March 30, 2018, 07:46:55 AM »

Interesting stuff. I have to admit I'm not a fan of Warner.But I do stop and think to myself- hey hang on a minute,I've never met the guy! Who are we to judge anyone really- plus the guy hasn't killed anyone! These days with social media and the news etc, everything is so hysterical,and so instantaneous;it ain't good. What I would like to see is some genuine contrition,and hopefully a change for the better. I don't want to preach,but I remember a good example of forgiveness from Pope Saint John Paul II- he forgave the Man who shot him.
If these guys show genuine remorse,and not in the immediate aftermath after they have just been caught- then I for one will welcome them back into the game of cricket.
Was also listening to radio five live last night on the way home from work,and one of the guys-Aggers or Vic Marks,said this sorry tale is a great example to kids of what can happen to you if you cheat!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2968 on: March 30, 2018, 08:13:53 AM »

Interesting stuff. I have to admit I'm not a fan of Warner.But I do stop and think to myself- hey hang on a minute,I've never met the guy! Who are we to judge anyone really- plus the guy hasn't killed anyone! These days with social media and the news etc, everything is so hysterical,and so instantaneous;it ain't good. What I would like to see is some genuine contrition,and hopefully a change for the better. I don't want to preach,but I remember a good example of forgiveness from Pope Saint John Paul II- he forgave the Man who shot him.
If these guys show genuine remorse,and not in the immediate aftermath after they have just been caught- then I for one will welcome them back into the game of cricket.
Was also listening to radio five live last night on the way home from work,and one of the guys-Aggers or Vic Marks,said this sorry tale is a great example to kids of what can happen to you if you cheat!

Yes good points, there is similarities wit Amir and a whole host of other cricketers and sports stars,human beings make mistakes-it happens.

I remember well Ben Johnson breaking the world 100 Meters in maybe the most electrifying sports event only to have the huge empty feeling when he tested positive.

So...they have their bans I personally think they are right in this case but no o e has killed anyone else so let's not get all prim and proper about it, there's nothing gained from gloating.

If you read upto date reports it seems there is an Australian players association who may get involved and there may be a reduction in the length of bans. I'm no lawyer but I can see some reduction will happen.

This is the best thing to happen .to Australian cricket for ages, there is a chance to reset the culture.

And if It's true about Warner he may well be gone out of the set up.

Smith will return not as captain but he will return. My gut feeling is he has been influenced too much by some,or one, senior player

He is the captain so he carries the can....but I suspect he will be back and as good as ever, maybe in 6 months time.

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