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"spirit of cricket"
« on: October 25, 2017, 10:36:04 AM »

Oh dear! Just seen this from Neil wagner...pretty pathetic!
Kudos to the batsman for just walking off

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5015213/New-Zealand-cricketer-shows-quick-thinking-run-out.html
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 10:42:00 AM »

Saw this. Is he attempting a run?

Under new rules is this out as looked to be wandering to pick ball up for the bowler.

Pretty daft from the batsmen and not sitting right what bowler did.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 10:52:17 AM »

Absolute dick move.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 10:54:53 AM »

Hmmm, I think this is a fringe case... the batsman may have looked like he was stepping towards the ball but he made no gesture to the opposition that he was offering to field the ball for them, and the fact he went straight off without even remonstrating would seem to me as though in this case he was just "done" by quick thinking on the bowlers part.

I'm absolutely sure it could be seen from both angles but in the modern game when dropping the ball at your feet and scampering a quick single is something done all the time I don't really see what happened there as against the spirit of the game...
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 11:01:29 AM »

Article quotes one of the players as saying that the batsman was chirping at Wagner, hence advancing out his crease - if that's the case then I see no issue (and I'm a batsman!)
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2017, 11:02:28 AM »

Bit of a gray areas spirt of the rules wise, but just a dumb thing to do.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 12:18:13 PM »

Article quotes one of the players as saying that the batsman was chirping at Wagner, hence advancing out his crease - if that's the case then I see no issue (and I'm a batsman!)

I am with you here - although the 'spirit of cricket' is always i grey area - i think in this case you can clearly see the batter walk out and stop his movement towards picking up the ball and then raise his head as if he is having words with Wagner.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 12:41:07 PM »

If you're going to pick up the ball then first have a quick glance and a nod at the fielding team/bowler to make sure it's OK.

Otherwise stay in your crease or risk an appeal for obstructing the field.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 12:42:00 PM »

I just don't understand why he's gone to field the ball. The bowler was 2 feet away and had just tried to knock his block off. I'd have offered to introduce him to the toe end of my bat, not done his job for him.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2017, 01:15:31 PM »

As a bowler i'd do the same. Ball isn't dead in my eyes. He's walked over to Wagner and given him abuse, serves him right.

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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2017, 01:33:42 PM »

I see nothing wrong with that, I really don't.
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2017, 01:51:05 PM »

The batsman is clearly not looking to take a run so definitely not in the sprit of cricket although definitely not against the rules
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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2017, 04:11:05 PM »

5. It is against the Spirit of the Game:

To dispute an umpire's decision by word, action or gesture

To direct abusive language towards an opponent or umpire

To indulge in cheating or any sharp practice, for instance:

(a) to appeal knowing that the batsman is not out

(b) to advance towards an umpire in an aggressive manner when appealing

(c) to seek to distract an opponent either verbally or by harassment with persistent clapping or unnecessary noise under the guise of enthusiasm and motivation of one's own side.

Think we are missing the point of the phrase 'spirit of the game'.

Spirit of cricket is to be respectful, and play buy the rules. Wagner was both of these.

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Re: "spirit of cricket"
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2017, 04:26:25 PM »

Personally I think it's a shame that some people play with this mindset. Wagner was playing within the rules and the batsman should have known better but a better outcome could have been achieved if the fielding captain called him back, particlarly as Otago won by plenty of wickets anyway.
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