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Gurujames

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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2018, 09:41:37 AM »

Other than that when ever possible the biggest and lightest Clefts will be sourced to make the biggest profiles possible and as for bats ranging from size 0-6 we will be turning out as many possible LAMINATES as this is now possible  and legal with MCC approval this has been introduced to bring the costs down for Junior Players watch these little bats ping
What will these sell for and how do we get one?
Thanks
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2018, 10:27:01 AM »

The only time a bat gauge will be used by me is too make sure The Bats used by my Proffesional Players are Lrgal for them .
Other than that when ever possible the biggest and lightest Clefts will be sourced to make the biggest profiles possible and as for bats ranging from size 0-6 we will be turning out as many possible LAMINATES as this is now possible  and legal with MCC approval this has been introduced to bring the costs down for Junior Players watch these little bats ping

Also interested in getting one.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2018, 11:27:04 AM »

The only time a bat gauge will be used by me is too make sure The Bats used by my Proffesional Players are Lrgal for them .
Other than that when ever possible the biggest and lightest Clefts will be sourced to make the biggest profiles possible and as for bats ranging from size 0-6 we will be turning out as many possible LAMINATES as this is now possible  and legal with MCC approval this has been introduced to bring the costs down for Junior Players watch these little bats ping

Anybody else tempted to order one in each size for their kid as they grow up? 🤣
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2018, 12:26:10 PM »

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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2018, 04:40:12 AM »

Bat regulations only seem to have targeted and effected David Warner.
Almost everyone else's bat in the internatinal arena is either within limits or not too far off.

So we won't see much of a difference in "raining sixes" phenomenon.

IMO, the bat regulations should have been, a 35 mm max edge and 55 mm max spine - but more importantly, a boundary line with at least 80 meters distance in ALL directions from the wicket.

A miss hit should be caught and not land for a six - THAT'S the problem!
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2018, 06:07:20 AM »

Is it really a problem though?

In this Ashes series so far, how many miss hits do you recall clearing the ropes for 6?
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2018, 06:27:40 AM »

So, Ive noticed that far more bats are coming out at 2.7/8/9 range which are full profile. Hence why i asked what others experience was. I went in to a retailer a week or so ago and there didnt appear to be much difference and still more 2.11/12/13 weight bats.

Generally a majority of bats were at that 40 mm range. The 1-3mm concave has not changed too dramatically. Some have adopted smaller spines (60-62mm) but extended the middle with less dramatic peaks. You won't see a GM Zona again thank goodness.
The big change is the big brands have started to shift back to the 4-5mm face camber as the 2 mm flatter face camber which made a average bat appear to have a 41-43 mm with sharp edges is pointless.

I wonder what comes in 2018/19? I think the GN Atomic shape is the blueprint most will follow.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2018, 06:37:25 AM »

But in the Ashes (or most tests for that matter) the emphasis is firstly not to get out. Play sensible shots and amass a score that forces the other team to take the risks I would have thought.
Watching England's first innings they looked afraid to play their natural shots and were being defensive.
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2018, 07:46:03 AM »

Hasnt made much difference in the Big Bash

Still hitting it out the ground/onto the roof on regular occasions
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2018, 08:01:05 AM »

Generally a majority of bats were at that 40 mm range. The 1-3mm concave has not changed too dramatically. Some have adopted smaller spines (60-62mm) but extended the middle with less dramatic peaks. You won't see a GM Zona again thank goodness.
The big change is the big brands have started to shift back to the 4-5mm face camber as the 2 mm flatter face camber which made a average bat appear to have a 41-43 mm with sharp edges is pointless.

I wonder what comes in 2018/19? I think the GN Atomic shape is the blueprint most will follow.

My favourite shape at the moment
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2018, 01:26:02 PM »

My favourite shape at the moment

Sneaky plug for my next review bat too haha.
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2018, 05:15:19 PM »

Hasnt made much difference in the Big Bash

Still hitting it out the ground/onto the roof on regular occasions

Flat tracks
Tiny grounds (rope brought in)
Format
Field restrictions

Etc etc

Bats simply didnt have much effect compared to any of the above
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2018, 06:56:16 PM »

Flat tracks
Tiny grounds (rope brought in)
Format
Field restrictions

Etc etc

Bats simply didnt have much effect compared to any of the above

Yes there has been much debate on the forum about the size of bats, and very interesting it has been too, the smaller boundaries , field restrictions, pitches made for batting and the physical strength and fitness of players today compared to back in the 70's or 80's have to Be a major factor.

Personally I'm a bit I undecided  myself whether a over dried bat with 70 MM spine and 50 MM edges actually makes the ball go further.

At Lords in 1984(I Started early I'm not that old!!) I saw GG get 200 against us, I was square of the wicket and I didn't think I would ever see the ball hit harder or faster, I then saw Botham live at against the Aussies,and hook McDermott into the stands-I still don't think to this day I have seen a ball hit harder or further.

I then saw Viv Richards bat in the Lords museum and my own bat is 2 or 3 times the physical size of it.

So you're spot on mentioning ground size and fielding restrictions added to stronger players who practice range hitting as more important factors.

What would Botham or Richards do with modern day bats? The answer on here is always hit it further than they did'

I understand the logic.....I'm just not convinced 

That is of course my totally unscientific opinion...and I don't want to start a 40 pages thread on why I'm wrong-because I could well be  :) :)
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2018, 08:08:49 PM »

Yes there has been much debate on the forum about the size of bats, and very interesting it has been too, the smaller boundaries , field restrictions, pitches made for batting and the physical strength and fitness of players today compared to back in the 70's or 80's have to Be a major factor.

Personally I'm a bit I undecided  myself whether a over dried bat with 70 MM spine and 50 MM edges actually makes the ball go further.

At Lords in 1984(I Started early I'm not that old!!) I saw GG get 200 against us, I was square of the wicket and I didn't think I would ever see the ball hit harder or faster, I then saw Botham live at against the Aussies,and hook McDermott into the stands-I still don't think to this day I have seen a ball hit harder or further.

I then saw Viv Richards bat in the Lords museum and my own bat is 2 or 3 times the physical size of it.

So you're spot on mentioning ground size and fielding restrictions added to stronger players who practice range hitting as more important factors.

What would Botham or Richards do with modern day bats? The answer on here is always hit it further than they did'

I understand the logic.....I'm just not convinced 

That is of course my totally unscientific opinion...and I don't want to start a 40 pages thread on why I'm wrong-because I could well be  :) :)

Agreed, legends like those could have made their shots with any sort of bat. I suppose the modern bats may have helped boost the figures of journeyman players, but we'll never really know.

Seems to me if they really have an issue with the balance between bat and ball, it would be more effective to make the wicket an inch wider and 3 inches taller, something like that. Don't try to penalise the hit, better make the miss more expensive.
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Re: MCC Regularions -User Experience
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2018, 08:13:59 PM »

The white ball doesn't do enough for the bowler. On any half decent wicket any pitched up delivery can be hit through the line, anything short dispatched square.
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