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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2018, 11:10:25 AM »

Bairstow England's best fielder @Manormanic ?! I'd say him and Hales are pretty similar in the field (not that I think Hales is as bad as everyone makes out) - both decent but drop the odd one. Bairstow dropped two proper clangers yesterday and lets one easy one through him on the boundary almost every game. Morgan/Roy/Stokes/Billings lead the way by a fair distance for England.

Didn't see the game yesterdya, and should perhaps have said out fielder, but yes, he is a very useful guy to have out there - quick, with a bullet arm. 
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #271 on: January 29, 2018, 11:13:32 AM »

Correct and the other nine times better

Dunno why youd defend Cook. He cost you the ashes.
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #272 on: January 29, 2018, 11:18:24 AM »

Didn't see the game yesterdya, and should perhaps have said out fielder, but yes, he is a very useful guy to have out there - quick, with a bullet arm.

Agree wth this - outfielder Bairstow is quality! Let's just say that he is a better keeper than he is a slip fielder!
And I believe that Hales is a good slip fielder. So unsure why Bairstow and Hales were fielding in the wrong positions?
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #273 on: January 29, 2018, 11:23:45 AM »

And Cook may have not been in decent nick in the Ashes, but he has been one of the best Openers in modern times.
Is Root better than Cook? They play slightly different positions and different roles so not always easy to compare. But I would say that time will tell.
Root has been one of the top five batsmen in the World for the past couple of years (alongside Kholi, Smith, Williamson, etc) I hope it continues and that his batting doesn't suffer becuase of the Captancy.
But also can't knock Cook - I hope both continue for a few years yet!
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #274 on: January 29, 2018, 11:23:54 AM »

In the last 5 years, better average against Australia, India and South Africa for starters.

If they batted in the same position it would be a more interesting comparison and lets see how Root goes after years of captaincy

Cook will finish his career with more runs, more tons, more doubles etc etc so I guess its which barometer you determine success by

For me Roots pretty 60s almost every innings are great while they last but a Cook marathon is a joy to behold

With regard to the ODI selection - its a pretty good position to be in. Had our 4th, 5th and 6th choice seamers on display last fixture (and the worlds best all-rounder building snowmen in Durham) and we still ran through the Aussies. The batting is just as strong - I agree that Bairstow is the man in possession if push comes to shove

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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #275 on: January 29, 2018, 11:34:15 AM »

I still like my XI - as long as Hales goes in the Slips and Bairstow not, then there is room for both.
Willey is decent but still feel that with Stokes, Woakes, Plunko and Wood bowling, we have plenty of pace bowling. I reckon they only put Willie and Ball in there to allow Fattus to feast on the innuendos!
I have a feeling that if Curren continues to show the kinds of skill and variations he showed yesterday, he will soon be going up the pecking order! The kid has so much confidence and he showed no nerves at all! His energy was impressive too. He seems to be growing in confidence and hope he continues to show that X-Factor!


Roy
Bairstow
Hales
Root
Morgs
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Plunkett (Rashid if dry wicket)
Wood

1st Reserves:
Bating - Malan
Bowling - Curren
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #276 on: January 29, 2018, 08:49:31 PM »

Dunno why youd defend Cook. He cost you the ashes.

Defiantly the most stupid post of 2018 so far and possibly still will be come the end of 2018.

One man did not cost us the ashes 6/7 players being not at there best with Ali being bang out of form with bat & ball and the Aussies having 6/7 players bang on form with another 3 having the best series of there careers so far cost us the Ashes.

Ask any cricketer of the last 10 years to name there best test team and I reckon 9/10 would have cook opening the batting
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #277 on: January 29, 2018, 09:44:14 PM »

The best way I find to pick the team is imagine it's the World Cup finals at the Oval, the oppo are top class and England are about to play the biggest match in limited overs history. So which 11 players have the skill,the bottle and the sheer desire to take us over the line and win the tournament.

If I close my eyes I'm at the Oval with a Pimms in my hand  :)

Morgan
Root
Roy
Stokes
Wood
Butler
Rashid
Woakes
Bairstow
Hales(the goon!)

That's 10 and most would have those I think on the forum,even with the varying views we get on here.i would  have someone else for Hales myself but logic is he has scored runs at the top of the order, so can't really argue sensibly on that one.He is however a total goon with a leaky defence against quality. on his day he is destructive...and we do need guys who can put it into the stands.
Most of here have Ali too, for me we play one spinner and Rashid gets that spot-more variation in the middle overs and spins both ways.

The other guy who has not really had a proper go is Billings, an unorthodox player could he be a wild card by 2019?

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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #278 on: January 29, 2018, 09:44:35 PM »

Defiantly the most stupid post of 2018 so far and possibly still will be come the end of 2018.

One man did not cost us the ashes 6/7 players being not at there best with Ali being bang out of form with bat & ball and the Aussies having 6/7 players bang on form with another 3 having the best series of there careers so far cost us the Ashes.

Ask any cricketer of the last 10 years to name there best test team and I reckon 9/10 would have cook opening the batting

What he said.  :D
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #279 on: January 29, 2018, 09:47:50 PM »

Defiantly the most stupid post of 2018 so far and possibly still will be come the end of 2018.


Agreed. The poster has been spouting nonsense in the SA v India thread aswell so has perhaps had some sort of brain fade

The Australian press here are all very critical of their own team, and coaches, after the 4-1 home drubbing. Perhaps the poster is trying to take his mind off that
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #280 on: January 29, 2018, 09:50:07 PM »

The best way I find to pick the team is imagine it's the World Cup finals at the Oval, the oppo are top class and England are about to play the biggest match in limited overs history. So which 11 players have the skill,the bottle and the sheer desire to take us over the line and win the tournament.

If I close my eyes I'm at the Oval with a Pimms in my hand  :)

Morgan
Root
Roy
Stokes
Wood
Butler
Rashid
Woakes
Bairstow
Hales(the goon!)

That's 10 and most would have those I think on the forum,even with the varying views we get on here.i would  have someone else for Hales myself but logic is he has scored runs at the top of the order, so can't really argue sensibly on that one.He is however a total goon with a leaky defence against quality. on his day he is destructive...and we do need guys who can put it into the stands.
Most of here have Ali too, for me we play one spinner and Rashid gets that spot-more variation in the middle overs and spins both ways.

The other guy who has not really had a proper go is Billings, an unorthodox player could he be a wild card by 2019?

Where are your 50 overs coming from? You're a bowler short
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #281 on: January 29, 2018, 10:00:40 PM »

Yes the 10 on that list does mean the 11th player has to be a bowler. Most I think would have Ali. I would have Plunkett I think. Curran may or may not be in favour by summer next year. Hard to tell from one match but Curran may have the big match temperament and that is gold dust.

I'm sure the Surrey fans on here would say he has it. he is used to bowling at the death in County games.
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #282 on: January 29, 2018, 10:05:55 PM »

Yes the 10 on that list does mean the 11th player has to be a bowler. Most I think would have Ali. I would have Plunkett I think. Curran may or may not be in favour by summer next year. Hard to tell from one match but Curran may have the big match temperament and that is gold dust.

I'm sure the Surrey fans on here would say he has it. he is used to bowling at the death in County games.

Sorry thought you were squeezing Billings in and giving the final 10 overs to Root

Hard to leave Curran out after annihilating the Australians but Plunkett has done a good job in recent times - great options!
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Re: AUS vs ENG ODI series
« Reply #283 on: January 30, 2018, 09:48:45 AM »

Agreed. The poster has been spouting nonsense in the SA v India thread aswell so has perhaps had some sort of brain fade

The Australian press here are all very critical of their own team, and coaches, after the 4-1 home drubbing. Perhaps the poster is trying to take his mind off that

Or our minds off it
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