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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 09:05:08 PM »

Im sure the batas ones will do a similar job.

Im speculating but the materials used may be slightly different ie palms, inserts, fill etc

The forum sponsors who source their own softs will be able to shed more light on this
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 09:07:31 PM »

Not a great deal at the end of the day. The Batas are sold for more than double by other companies and are fantastic value. Great gloves
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 10:14:41 PM »

I really rate the Batas gloves, they're top spec.
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 10:19:59 PM »

Batas don't have to pay for the workforce, the infrastructure the sponsorship, the advertising etc that GM have to pay for.
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 06:35:59 AM »

I have a pair of batas gloves. Very Good gloves. Use them for nets. For 40 you can't go wrong. The B&S ones at 45 also very good.
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 08:23:53 AM »

I should also add that GM are able to utilise better economies of scale and can research materials better. They also have more experience in the market.

The smaller companies can use the experience of the guus making the kit and their economies if scale which is why there is little divergence on designs (although there isn't that much you can do, hands are all pretty similar!)

Lets just say that there are no cricket equipment manufacturers who have made their millions from kit... (that I know of!)

Also the GM gloves have poron in them, I am not sure the Batas ones do...
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 06:31:51 PM »

I don`t profess to have the knowledge of the mechanics and viability of glove manufacture but if the likes of Batas can afford to price softs as they do without passing on a huge mark up on what is basically the same glove,then us Punters should vote with our `s ..G+M`s financial structure should be of no consequence unless a hugely superior product is being marketed to the customer but 50 superior ??

However,you pays your money etc etc
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 06:46:29 PM »

I don`t profess to have the knowledge of the mechanics and viability of glove manufacture but if the likes of Batas can afford to price softs as they do without passing on a huge mark up on what is basically the same glove,then us Punters should vote with our `s ..G+M`s financial structure should be of no consequence unless a hugely superior product is being marketed to the customer but 50 superior ??

However,you pays your money etc etc

While this is true and a more clued up person would buy Batas this is the same way in all walks of life (Clothing, food, cars....)

You are paying for the logo on the equipment not the equipment itself, same way people will buy a NB over a Slazenger Bat...

Unless there is genuinely something new ( @Ayrtek Cricket new box for example with the new protection materials) or they can prove they are better at something than their competitors sorts are all much of a muchness....
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 07:22:50 PM »

https://www.talentcricket.co.uk/gunn_and_moore_batting_gloves/gunn_and_moore_original_limited_edition_batting_gloves/c184p2465.html?pos=1000&search_params=YTo3OntzOjEyOiJjYXRlZ29yeV9pZHMiO2E6MTp7aToxO3M6MzoiMTg0Ijt9czoxNjoiY2F0ZWdvcnlfcmVjdXJzZSI7YjoxO3M6ODoia2V5d29yZHMiO3M6MDoiIjtzOjk6ImJyYW5kX2lkcyI7YTowOnt9czo0OiJtb2RlIjtzOjM6ImFsbCI7czo0OiJzb3J0IjtzOjk6InByaWNlX2FzYyI7czoxMDoiY291bnRyeV9pZCI7aToxO30%3D


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http://www.batascricket.co.uk/new-century-batting-gloves

Apart from about 50 ??


Made by different manufacturers, and sold by totally different ends of the industry. As mentioned GM have to pay for infrastructure, overheads, staff, brand awareness, player exposure etc. Then there is the other part of it that many small brands/hobby brands like Batas don't have to worry about, tax.

As eluded to by Buzz, Poron adds to the cost.

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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 08:07:16 PM »

I thought Poron is a moron - or did l get confused again?
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 08:12:34 PM »

Don't be soft, it's a foam  :D

Then there is the other part of it that many small brands/hobby brands like Batas don't have to worry about, tax.

......?
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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 08:16:56 PM »

Don't be soft, it's a foam  :D

......?

Very few small brands are VAT registered. And to be honest there are plenty of small brands out there operating literally as hobbies/cash in hand to pay for a holiday etc (the owner of a medium rare brand currently trying to sell up said this in my presence about a year ago)
Funds from purchases go straight into personal bank or Paypal accounts. Accounts, tax returns etc are never in the equation.  I have no idea if batas is one of these.

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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 08:19:49 PM »

Im not disputing that big brands like GM can be seen as overpriced and not disputing that small brands can offer good quality and value. But asking for the reasons why and/or kicking off about it is the same as asking why buying from a startup is cheaper than from a multinational. Thats how it is in any industry, it always intrigues me that people seem to consider cricket differently.

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Re: What is the difference between.....
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 08:33:04 PM »

Very few small brands are VAT registered. And to be honest there are plenty of small ‘brands’ out there operating literally as hobbies/cash in hand to pay for a holiday etc (the owner of a medium rare brand currently trying to sell up said this in my presence about a year ago)
Funds from purchases go straight into personal bank or Paypal accounts. Accounts, tax returns etc are never in the equation.  I have no idea if batas is one of these.

That's a pretty big leap and big brush to tar all small businesses of any type with! It isn't a requirement to be VAT registered under the turnover threshold so why knock any company for that? VAT works both ways

Anyway, fact is the gloves are cheap and good and do the same job. They also happen to be significantly cheaper than the same gloves from other similar sized companies which is a more interesting talking point  :)
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