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backing away when batting - 2 questions
« on: February 01, 2018, 05:05:37 PM »

1) is it really as bad as people make out?

2) best way to stop yourself.


OK so here it is,

I back away (less than i used to i think) but it still happens.

I've been thinking though, i have fairly decent hands and can time the ball, and have backed away for as long as i can remember, i have tried all sorts (hour upon hour on a bowling machine, incorporating triggers batting with a box behind me to stop me moving etc) to remedy it but when it comes to facing quicker bowlers i back away.

Now, the last two nets I've felt more comfortable than i have in a long time but still back away, i also feel that I'm hitting the ball much straighter at the minute.

I have tried to change my mental approach to batting (more see ball hit ball) as i always used to think dont get out, im not sure if this change of attitude towards batting has helped because im now thinking hit it rather than just dont get out therefore thinking what shot i need to play to any particular ball or rather than i just need to get bat on this....

anyone got any ideas on what might help or if it is less of a problem that people make out?

thanks

Alex
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 06:06:17 PM »

Hi Alex
Here's two answers 1 Backing away is a problem as it gives bowlers confidence.

                             2  Try staying on the balls of your feet and tell yourself to get forward when going forward don't make contact with the ground with  your heels this will prevent you moving back and backing away. Also when you  do need to go back it's easy to push back of the balls of your front foot than it is when your heel is grounded
     
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 06:26:26 PM »

When I was younger (A long time ago!) I used to back away, particularly early in my innings. I took advice from a couple of far better batsmen than myself, and am happy to pass their ideas on here. This helped me a lot, but it is true that you really do have to be brave at first, force yourself to overcome the reflex movement and build confidence.

I backed away from anything short around leg-stump. The advice was to take a leg-stump guard, and make a very deliberate trigger step across with my right foot, as the bowler hit his delivery stride. This put me on or around middle as the ball left the hand, inside the line of a potential delivery on leg-stump. It took some practice, but after a while I got used to it and it was effective.

The second piece of advice was to bat out of my crease, anything from 6 inches to 18 inches, as the feeling took me. Rather than just focus on getting myself inside the line, they told me to also focus on breaking up the bowler's rhythm, so that he found it harder to target my weakness. If I could put away a few bad balls, my confidence would grow and my footwork and timing would begin to take over instinctively.

I'm older and wiser now, and the problem has faded away. I still can't pull very well, but I can stay inside the line and turn the ball through backward square pretty comfortably.

Best of luck Alex!
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 07:01:08 PM »

Hi Alex,

My two penneth from my own experience of it.

For me it is purely a mental thing and once you overcome that you then move forward with technique.

The way I learnt was the pure brutal method from my dad which has served me very well in the long run as i am now an opening bat and consider the short ball a strength.

My dad quite simply saw me backing away from the ball in a Colts game so took me straight into the nets, showed me the proper technique for the pull, hook and how to duck and sway out the way.

Then stuck 2 bricks behind my feet when I was in my stance and bounced tennis balls at my head with no lid on and said play it properly.

Fight or flight simple. I had a few bruises by the end of it but i learnt how to play the short ball properly.
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 07:07:29 PM »

The guys Ive worked with its been pretty easy to fix. It did take a while to build it up to facing the machine aimed at their hip and ribs and bouncers at high pace but eventually they go there. Took many 100s of balls of simply facing it and learning to control your reaction and reacting in certain ways. Some people felt comfy enough to /book.. a lot didnt and purely look to get out the way.

Either way if done with confidence and control is fine at the end of the day. It did take a while so a few nets simply doesnt overly cut it if its an issue. Takes many hours

Its mainly about confidence and having a game plan for it. Just look how many modern batsmen cant deal with the short ball after all
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 07:20:04 PM »

Let an expensive bat on the ground behind your heels.

You will not stop on it!
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 07:29:08 PM »

Let an expensive bat on the ground behind your heels.

You will not stop on it!
Saw a guy do somthing simular he placed the bat longways  on the outside of his foot his rationale was he would rather get hit than risk stepping on the bat and risk hurting his ankle
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 07:30:22 PM »

I guess the answer to 1) is yes it is a problem, both from a confidence point of view and also because you are closing yourself off and turning away from the ball, neither of which actually help you get out of the way if you need to or play a shot

2) Best way to stop it is mainly what Adie says I think

Its mainly about confidence and having a game plan for it.

Main point here for me is having a plan. I was very off side driven so a lot of backing away wasn't purely confidence, it was more that I didn't know what to do with a ball in those area and tried to engineer a shot that was a strength. Practice with something behind me and being a touch more open in stance helped*

* Though I still bat like a tit 9 times out of 10
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 07:38:19 PM »

Watching you bat on Tuesday mate, your front foot is going out to leg straight away, even if the ball is full. This then meant anything coming across you from round the wicket or left arm you just ended up hanging the bat out at or throwing your hands playing well away from the body.

Id concentrate on getting your head and that front foot going towards the ball to begin with. If we can get the bowling machine out at some point we can work on it using that.
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 08:09:09 PM »

Had a similar issue, mine was more I got hit by a quick a couple of times in one season started backing away. Worked alot in nets couldn't seem to get over it then I saw a coach a he suggested have hands in a higher position in stance, lifting them up to your belly button and has worked ever since much easier to pull and cut.
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 08:11:27 PM »

Cheers guys! Sounds like a lot of bowling machine work and being stubborn!

@Maverick79 sounds good mate!
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 08:43:18 PM »

I think @JK Lewis nailed it. I am of the same mindset. I consider my forward movement (which brings me out of the crease) also a trigger - a forward trigger. Bottom line is that your trigger (backward or forward) should take care of it.

If you are afraid of the ball hitting you, practice with a fast tennis ball. You will begin to realize that you can dodge or defend deliveries aimed at your body and head. It gets easier over time.
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 09:17:19 PM »

I would start with some under armed throws.
You first need to work on changing your muscle memory before you go to a machine.
Get your confidence with tennis balls first.
Yes backing away is an issue.

Do loads if shadow batting too.
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Re: backing away when batting - 2 questions
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 09:27:44 PM »

Its ok to admit youre backing away from my rocket bolts! Most people play me from square leg....

Dont worry and over complicate it mate! I used to do it too, one day it will just click
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