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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2018, 10:29:02 PM »

How about...

 10 team leagues
No teas

18 games a season
6 draw (50overs a side unless first innings declares /bowled out)
6 ODI games
6 2020

Something for everyone

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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2018, 10:31:27 PM »

Possibly two day cricket played over two Saturdays, my lad plays this in nz and rates it
He plays wepl over here, and hates the distance they have to travel/ late finishes/ , bit of a nightmare if they want to go out on the lash,,,or if they have to work weekend shifts etc

I like the idea of two day cricket but imagine the British weather playing havoc with it. Also the prospect of not batting for a month at a time if tosses/ weather conspire against you doesnt fill me with joy.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2018, 10:34:42 PM »

I like the idea of two day cricket but imagine the British weather playing havoc with it. Also the prospect of not batting for a month at a time if tosses/ weather conspire against you doesnt fill me with joy.

Imagine paying say 5 to turn up, field for 20overs and get slogged about.. wander in and get out having faced 5 balls as you had to get on with it.. basically the same tbf
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2018, 10:39:26 PM »

Agreed, even as a more aggressive player I dont want to just being playing T20. Quite happy to play the odd game but much prefer wasting a Saturday afternoon chasing leather around a meadow for 45 overs.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2018, 10:43:13 PM »

Agreed, even as a more aggressive player I dont want to just being playing T20. Quite happy to play the odd game but much prefer wasting a Saturday afternoon chasing leather around a meadow for 45 overs.

I do think teas should go though, 30-45mins wasted. Just come off, 10mins .. back out ... might only shave off 35mins but add that to enforced over rates and youll shave off 45-50 mins off most games..

Plenty of things you can do before reducing overs .. like enforcing batters to be ready for the bowler not waiting for a batter to fiddle, chat, punch gloves or put gloves back on etc. Keep your kit on and get on with it 👍
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2018, 11:01:49 PM »

Enforced over rates is key! 2hrs 56 to bowl your 45, job done! Get the spinners on and aim for 17/18 overs an hour easy. More time to beer before the lady wonders where to are!
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2018, 11:06:50 PM »

Enforced over rates is key! 2hrs 56 to bowl your 45, job done! Get the spinners on and aim for 17/18 overs an hour easy. More time to beer before the lady wonders where to are!

Devils advocate... who is going to enforce said laws when there arent neutral umpires ? (Club umpires are generally cheats so discount them)
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2018, 11:22:04 PM »

Devils advocate... who is going to enforce said laws when there arent neutral umpires ? (Club umpires are generally cheats so discount them)

Find umpires  ;)

Not something I have to worry about on a Saturday fortunately, neutral umpires and non playing scorers! two of the best parts of the league rules!
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2018, 07:42:01 AM »

Find umpires  ;)

Not something I have to worry about on a Saturday fortunately, neutral umpires and non playing scorers! two of the best parts of the league rules!

Same..

But..

Thats why its hard, because it has to be able to fit all game types, with and without umpires etc.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2018, 08:50:28 AM »

Over here in Suffolk we play 40 overs each side in the Hunts County Sunday league. We start at 1.30, there are some late finishes, usually due to slow over rates. Format of the day is all very traditional, including 30 mins (ish) for teas. We have kicked around the idea of reducing overs to attract/keep players, but one of the problems then is how to introduce the youngsters to Senior cricket. In the 2s, we often have 3 or 4 young lads, maybe 13-16 years old. If they came into T/20 they might hardly bat, and their bowling would get hammered to all parts.

For us, I think the weekend needs to stay pretty much as is. Some days run long, but this is as much to do with having to drive fair distances - Suffolk is a big county! But half the games are at home, so it works both ways. For the hit-and-giggle guys, we have set up a small T/20 league on Weds evenings, playing against other very local villages (3-4 miles). This runs through June and July to get the light, and works very well.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2018, 09:34:22 AM »

Imagine paying say 5 to turn up, field for 20overs and get slogged about.. wander in and get out having faced 5 balls as you had to get on with it.. basically the same tbf

Or imagine rushing from work driving  20 miles through traffic   paying 5.00 to turn up field  for 20 overs  don't  get a bat or a bowl  been there.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2018, 09:37:51 AM »

Or imagine paying 5.00 to turn up fied for 20 overs  don't  get a bat or a bowl seen it been there.

I did this for virtually a whole season of midweek games a few years back.
The captain just wouldn't give me a game. I would moan but the captain was me... :-[
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2018, 09:39:30 AM »

The style and duration of cricket we play isn't broken, so doesn't need fixing. It just needs a common-sense approach to start times and tea durations.

I like 40-50 over cricket, I don't want to play T20 or 30 overs slaps on a Saturday. I would like to play what I call 'proper cricket'

The best thing that ever happened in our league is the change to a mix of declaration cricket and limited overs cricket. Our youngsters now really get to see all facets of the game within one season.

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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2018, 10:29:16 AM »

The style and duration of cricket we play isn't broken, so doesn't need fixing. It just needs a common-sense approach to start times and tea durations.

I like 40-50 over cricket, I don't want to play T20 or 30 overs slaps on a Saturday. I would like to play what I call 'proper cricket'

The best thing that ever happened in our league is the change to a mix of declaration cricket and limited overs cricket. Our youngsters now really get to see all facets of the game within one season.

Agreed regarding 20 over and 30 over cricket...I feel that declaration cricket is what is driving youngsters away from the game; especially when they play games where the opposition just block out everything for a draw. I have seen a few games in lower divisions where a couple of old timers walk out and play a blockathon boring everyone to death. This doesnt do any good to the game. In my opinion, all games especially at lower divisions should be limited overs games where both team play to win.
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Re: Hampshire League in trouble...
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2018, 02:11:21 PM »

Totally agree, played in too many games where the "blockers' come in.  One i remember was an 8pm finish where they didn't even try from ball one. One of the openers carried his bat for about 20, he batted the whole 45 overs!

PS - I'm just jealous i can't bat that long :)
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