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KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« on: February 06, 2018, 10:48:29 PM »

Well Pieterson nears the end of any meaningful cricket, I wondered how the forum remembers him. now in the past it's fair to say he has split opinion, but definitely more on here...that's us 'experts' by the way  :)....as a maverick brilliant batsman who come down on his side rather than the many he has upset along the way, including our old friends the ECB.

Have to say personally I quite like to 'like' the players that play for us being an England fan, don't know why just prefer to.

Atherton,Hussain,Cook.....I actually like them for different reasons(Nasser does not get enough credit for skippering when we were simply not very good, and Atherton got even more of a raw deal)

But KP was different, I just could not like the bloke, and it wasn't because he was South African.Lamb and especially Robin Smith I loved the fact they were playing for us.Smith is up there as one of my favourites because of that square cut and the way he took on the Windies with Bishop in their side(Jesus he was quick pre back injury)

But it not about being liked, it's pro sport and cricket loves a winner more so now than the old days.Winning is top of the agenda.

Two of the best innings I've ever seen in an England shirt were KP's hundred on the tour we won 2-1 in India on a ragging  deck, and his Hundred at Headingly at the height of text gate and the total breakdown of his relationship with the mananagement and some of the players, probably Prior,Anderson,Swann and maybe Broad.And of course Andy Flower.

So.....absolutely breathtakingly brilliant player, if you can stand out on your own with the best in the Country you must be good.

So how do you remember KP?
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 10:58:00 PM »

A poorly managed, insanely brilliant maverick. I have said it all along, to be successful for a very long time at the top level of sport, you need some degree of arrogance and it just so happened that the ECB are a bunch of spineless idiots that couldn't manage him properly, and wanted someone to blame for a string of abhorrent performances. To put it into perspective, Michael Vaughan never had a problem with his management.  He was and probably always will be I'm the top 3 batsmen England have ever had. He was england's highest runscorer for a very long time, averages more than the lauded Cook who only seems to perform in a handful of innings. To be honest I think he had every right to be arrogant. He was and still is simply fantastic, and having met and been coached by him briefly, I have nothing but praise for him. I think unfortunately the shadow that overhangs his career is more remembered than just how remarkable a talent he was. I very rarely agree with Piers Morgan, but I think on KP he is entirely right, Strauss stabbed him in the back and his England career was cut short due to a personal vendetta.
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 12:15:58 AM »

The start of KP's international career just happened to coincide with my first real memories of being into cricket.

The first series I can remember properly following was England in South Africa 2004/05 (a certain D Steyn made his debut, if I remember correctly). We won the Test series but as a youngster nobody really stood out as being "cool".

Then came the one dayers. England lost comprehensively but there was a bloke with an awesome haircut hitting the Saffas to all parts. 11 year old Cameron had an idol!

Fast forward to the 5th test of the 2005 Ashes, my idol made his maiden ton, 158, to secure the urn. English cricket had a new hero with a skunk on his head!

As I grew up I realised KP was something of an enigma, but you cannot deny he's a great talent. The Peter Moores fallout and textgate tainted his reputation no doubt, but he could bat like nobody else. He was made a scapegoat by Sir Strauss and his band of merry men at the ECB, and English cricket was arguably worse off for it.

In short he was a great batsman and a "bit of a character". I think people loved to hate him while he played, but missed him once he was axed. It will be a shame when he retires but the bloke deserves it. By the fact he's been "batting for rhinos" towards the end of his playing days you can tell he's a decent bloke in my opinion.

Now, where's my 2005 Ashes DVD, I'm off to reminisce of bygone days when everything was simpler
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 02:48:57 AM »

Brilliant batsman, the best Ive seen in an England shirt but unfortunately in any employment sector you can't slag your boss off and expect no comeuppance
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 06:17:49 AM »

I remember KP when he scored 158 in the ashes at the oval. That was when I came to London to study my Bachelors degree at Middlesex Uni in 2005 from Dubai UAE. What a wonderful player he was (just my opinion).
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 06:30:20 AM »

The most talented batsman England have had for years.

I got interested in Cricket at my grandparents watching highlights of Vaughan and his amazing Ashes series down under.

But Pietersen really cemented that love of the game with the way he used to take on attacks, my grandad and a 12-16 y/o self would always take a break from whichever garden we were mowing and listen to him batting on TMS for 30-60 minutes.

He is in a list of sportsmen & women that our generation are very fortunate to have been able to witness playing live and gave me some great personal family memories that Ill always cherish.
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 08:44:42 AM »

Never liked the guy, even when he was scoring runs.

Silly, I know - but always felt less 'English' to me than the likes of Robin Smith
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 08:50:50 AM »

I have a memory went out to bat in a league match against Cannock and this tall kid was bowling  hadnt played against him before or heard of him and after the match forgot about him.
Next time I saw him he was  playing county cricket and the rest is history.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 09:39:05 AM »

1. Once in a generation player who I loved watching

2. Sh!t bloke

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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 09:41:25 AM »

I have a memory went out to bat in a league match against Cannock and this tall kid was bowling  hadnt played against him before or heard of him and after the match forgot about him.
Next time I saw him he was  playing county cricket and the rest is history.

Did you hit him out of the park lol
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 10:19:28 AM »

1. Once in a generation player who I loved watching

2. Sh!t bloke

Took words right out of my mouth. Plain and simple though
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 11:18:55 AM »

I'm only speaking from meeting him twice, nine years apart, but I think calling him a (No Swearing Please) bloke is wildly unfair. He was perhaps a bit prissy in his dealing with management, but he was badly treated and badly managed. I think any situation where you have to drop your best player reflects very badly on coach and captain.
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 11:23:29 AM »

I liked him,

I feel he was slightly ahead of the curve in terms of frequently applying an ultra aggressive batting strategy.
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 11:26:49 AM »

Personally think KP is a legend of the modern game and overall a great if the game. The truth will never really be known about what happened when he was dropped etc and there is certainly going to be some truth that he was hard to manage etc etc but he was treated in an awful way.
He was and should still be one of our best players and think he would have made a big difference to this England team over the past few years espically having him alongside others we have in this fearless brand on white ball cricket we are playing.

Seems to me to have good morals as well with his charity work etc
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Re: KP....nearly the end,it was eventful.
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 11:50:03 AM »

 Hard to deny he acted like a bit of a knob occasionally but there aren't many who don't. Always came across as very engaging and thoughtful, considered in interviews, much more of a student of the game than many people realised I think. Fringe players in the England setup always seemed to speak really highly of him which tells a different story to Swanny et al. The suspicion remains that the ego and carry on was a bit of a front at times, maybe could have done himself some favours by toning it down but maybe he needed it. Didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus repeatedly by the ECB.

As a batsman, just ridiculous. The shots, the big innings and the sheer b*llocks of it all, great fun to watch. Don't think we'll see a test batsman like him again anytime soon.
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