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What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:39:13 AM »

Partially inspired by the give away end of season say at GCCC, but also a thread I have been meaning to start for ages.

Will start this by saying I don't think I've ever even seen one in the flesh, never mind used one in anger, but I wondered if those who have could share some experiences/thoughts, about what exactly makes these bats so sought after.

I get that they are huge, but they also mostly come in pretty heavy weights too, is part of it just a bit of edge/spine envy?

I also wondered if people know/can make an educated guess as to why they do manage to get a lot of bats that are big for their weight (even if they are 2'15), obviously a skinny handle and no binding saves a bit of weight, but are they clefts drier than standard, do they have a willow supplier that isn't Wrights (I know GN have their own source, but Robertsbridge doesn't seem to be producing anything similar.

The performance reviews seem to have been excellent, is it due to the size, the pressing, placebo effect of a giant bat.

Mostly just curious as to why people thing they are ahead of the game. And why nobody else seems to have been able to replicate it, so far.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 09:01:19 AM »

I have the XXX-11 handcrafted and a GM players edition(QDK). The XXX-11 costed me 25% more, but the ping on the GM is much better. Very hard to mistime a shot with the GM. The XXX-11 isn't an oversized bat to be honest, some may disagree but I have been told by the owner of Meulemens that they are in-fact made from regular sized clefts and not the over-sized clefts that are used for the Kabooms and 50+ bats. The XXX-11 is a very good bat don't get me wrong, but it's not that special size wise. CA bats for example pack as much wood as them, just that the GN has much of the willow concentrated in the middle. It has a flat face so that adds 3-4 mm to the edge size.

Having said that, I also own a big 50+ bat which has an unbelievable ping but that's 2.14. Just pings everywhere and has 18-19 grains. In my opinion, the big bats from GN Australia are special and it's something only they are doing. So if you can afford one, and most importantly have the strength to wield one, get one as they are pretty special all the ones I have seen. The regular sized/weight bats are not that special and way too expensive, can get better value for money elsewhere.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 09:02:21 AM »

Very very good post. Will eagerly await folks who own these to share their wisdom and experiences.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 09:06:04 AM »

I have not seen one in the flesh, but proportionately the handles often look like toothpicks. Is this really the case?
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 09:09:10 AM »

I have not seen one in the flesh, but proportionately the handles often look like toothpicks. Is this really the case?

That's my impression, but that alone (or combined with no twine) isn't enough to get bats that big for the weights I don't think. Did wonder if similar handles on say a CA would be accepted as readily.

On that note, I have actually seen one model that is similar, the CA Dragon. Again haven't seen one in the flesh though.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 09:11:11 AM »

I have not seen one in the flesh, but proportionately the handles often look like toothpicks. Is this really the case?

Handles are skinny and have a very pronounced oval shape. Legend and XXX have the skinniest handles. Predator3(Aussie), XP-80, 50+ and Kabooms have similar handle shape, slightly less skinny at least the ones I have.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2018, 09:19:37 AM »

@thedoctor Straky- you guys at B3 are obviously well on top of cleft and bat weights to a high degree of precision, what sort of weight difference can there be between the thickest/heaviest handle and the thinnest/lightest ones?
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 09:28:01 AM »

Handles are tiny and not bound so no wonder they feel nice, they must flex like mad.

In my limited experience of picking up and tapping up a few... they're big and they pick up light. That's about it, obviously they do perform but I don't think better than any other source of good bats. Tapped up alright but nothing special. Personally I really didn't like the handles or any of the shapes I've seen! Haven't had a bat with one admittedly but wouldn't remotely consider buying one if I'd been looking at what I've seen in a shop.

Re. other makers doing massive bats - the previous forum crazes of H4L monsters and oversized B3s have both seen some comparable size/weight bats haven't they?
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 09:30:13 AM »

The handles on mine are really thin, need at least 2 decent thickness grips to get them to how I like them.

I haven't used the XXX11 yet but the XP80 and 50+ absolutely fly! But saying that so does the H4L Custom i used all last year
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 09:32:55 AM »

http://www.eclipseallsports.co.uk/index.php/dragon-50mm-01.html

This is the CA, that to my eyes looks like a Kaboom copy.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 09:35:15 AM »

The GN big bats pick up considerably lighter than their weight, well balanced, feel really nice in the hands. The most impressive part is how big they are for their weight and how light it feels despite being 2.14
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 09:54:18 AM »

The GN big bats pick up considerably lighter than their weight, well balanced, feel really nice in the hands. The most impressive part is how big they are for their weight and how light it feels despite being 2.14

I'm guessing you own one, any ideas as to how/why it is so big for the weight?

Obviously feel etc for the weight of that bat is done to shaping and the batmakers skill.
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2018, 10:01:32 AM »

Having a few gn Australian made bats I believe they are extremely special I like a thin Handel and the sheer size of the xxx11 is incredible for the weight 2.8 with 45mm edges and 70mm spine is extremely impressive
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2018, 10:17:18 AM »

I've seen Simons gn bats, and used one
They are unreal for the weight, performance is excellent, but it's the lack of dead weight for the size that impresses.

Must be down to cleft drying
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Re: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after.
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 10:21:42 AM »

There is a thread already on this but I can't find it quickly.

There is a certain mystique about spending ridiculous amounts of money on a big bat from the other side of the world and having the in thing, but I think @edge sums it up saying he wouldn't remotely consider one if browsing in a shop- that was the same feeling I was left with. There is no way any of them remotely suited me but some late night browsing and a credit card in reach may tell a different story!

In many cases I imagine the specs sell the bats. Credit where it is due though, they seem to make the most of having their own willow and being one of the few to actually spot a market for this type of bat.

The Melben made GN's are nice and seem to be of consistent good all around quality but nothing that blows any other decent makers out of the water. Yes some people have exceptional Aus GN's but there are also exceptional feeling and performing B3/ H4L/ etc out there.
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