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jamferg

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Missing everything down my legs
« on: May 22, 2018, 12:43:13 PM »



 I'm Really struggling with balls down my legs, both short and full length. I'm a left handed bat and I've always been fairly decent off my legs. The last few innings though I've missed everything bar the odd desperate, frustrated sweep..
I bat on middle /leg guard and I've open up my stance.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Jim
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 12:52:12 PM »

I am not expert but maybe you moving towards off paying full length hence missing and playing too early or late on short delivery resulting same.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 12:55:21 PM »

More info might be helpful - usually missing out on your legs is a result of either falling over to the offside, playing across the ball trying to hit it to fine leg or planting your front foot forward and then missing the ball playing around it. Given you say you've usually been good off your pads, maybe you've started falling over for some reason? What seems the likely problem if any.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2018, 12:57:12 PM »

@jamferg

 It is hard to diagnose such problems with such little information but there are a few possibilities:

A.  If you wear glasses or contacts or have stigmatism in your eyes, I suggest getting your prescription checked. I had my eyes examined recently and I found that prescription in one  Eye had changed pretty drastically.

B.  Head position and alignment. Check how your head is positioned for those kinds of deliveries and whether anything is getting in the way like a helmet grill or just rotation of your head of movement that is too early or too late.

C. Do you trigger? Try without triggering
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 12:57:30 PM »

Try opening up your front foot Jim. Not your stance but just have front foot pointing to mid off rather than cover point. If that makes sense. Worked for me.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 01:07:28 PM »

I'm with @edge on this one. I had a coaching session a couple of years back and the coach got me to stand up taller as my head was making me fall over to the offside, therefore being too far away from anything on leg. Also planting your front foot early means you can't play around it. I had/have all of these faults too, the amount of runs i've missed down leg in my career is criminal!

Good luck with it.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 01:47:35 PM »

The two usual culprits are the head falling away to the offside so your momentum is taking you away from where you are trying to hit the ball or planting the front foot early then having to play round your front pad making it difficult to access the ball.

If you have access to the facilities, I would suggest getting someone to.film you whilst batting against a bowling machine set up to deliver balls on your legs so you can watch it back and see what is going wrong
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 02:40:12 PM »


 I'm Really struggling with balls down my legs,

Narf!!! How can I pass that up!!!
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 05:02:48 PM »

Cheers guys ( and Mr Cat 🙄🤣) I Bat without helmet and consciously try to keep eyes level. I suspect I do plant foot too straight and play round pad. Like idea of point foot straighter and I need to wait for these ball. Standard not high so I really have to wait for ball.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2018, 08:42:54 PM »

I have this issue, last year a took a much more positive trigger movement in an attempt to get my head over the ball but it has hurt my balance when it comes to leg side shots... in the nets i have tried a back foot trigger and found it enabled me to stay up right for longer and pick up the middle and leg line better and subsequently play leg side shots with way more success... i have relied on my front foot driving for so long that i just pick up that line and lengh a lot soon and as such have more time to still get forward even if my trigger is more backward  i think staying tall is the key... it gives better wight distribution and makes it way easier to get the bat around your pads.... i do find im Getting squared up a bit more than i used too but at my standard those deliveries are few and far between and so the runs out way the risk in my view.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2018, 08:46:35 PM »

Ricky Ponting tip I picked up last week for anyone falling over - line yourself up and watch the ball with your right eye (for a RH bat). Simple as that, your left eye is closer to the bowler so it can be natural to line up on that which leads to falling over, right eye lines you up nicely.
I tried it as hadn't been lining my leg side shots up as well as I'd like, immediately belted everything anywhere near my pads, highly recommend.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2018, 09:36:15 PM »

Ricky Ponting tip I picked up last week for anyone falling over - line yourself up and watch the ball with your right eye (for a RH bat). Simple as that, your left eye is closer to the bowler so it can be natural to line up on that which leads to falling over, right eye lines you up nicely.
I tried it as hadn't been lining my leg side shots up as well as I'd like, immediately belted everything anywhere near my pads, highly recommend.

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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2018, 10:02:58 PM »

Have a bowling machine session with balls set on a good to full length on your pads. Even though its a machine the line will still vary slightly. Try and hit everything back past the machine in the V, ideally to mid on. Start easy just getting a bat on it and progress to full blooded shots. At some point in the session something will click and you will murder it through midwicket/square leg (depending on your personal way of going about such a shot)

It can take ten minutes or 2 good length sessions, but persist with it.

As youve always been fine I suspect its not a major technical problem. Im saying that without the advantage of seeing you before and after this problem of course but Id hope your mates would point out a major stance or technical change. The advice about having a look at your head alignment is good but to be honest everyones head moves to the offside to some degree or another, its inevitable. If you are really falling over badly then as mentioned your teammates should have pointed it out. 

I think of the shot as quite an instinctive one rather than a set list of technical steps to follow. Some people have that impressive pickup over square leg that looks effortless, others seem to be able to almost middle it to fine leg. When speaking to players who are strong on the legside their feedback seems to consistently be along the lines of I dont really know what I do, I just hit it

Ive done the above exercise dozens of times with customers and it works, its like a lightbulb moment, after farting around for a while, then hitting them nicely through mid on, they will nail some into their preferred legside area and then I see the look on their face. Oh. I CAN hit it there

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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 03:37:52 AM »

Try to shadow practice keeping a ball on the ground outside your legstump. And when you shadow practice move your right shoulder (you are left handed??) towards the ball. Practice this for a week or more To build muscle memory, you will automatically start moving your body towards the ball.

Note: shoulder towards the ball automatically forces head + feet and body weight towards the ball.
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Re: Missing everything down my legs
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 09:49:51 AM »

Thanks all - really looking forward to trying these tips
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