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radiomark

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And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« on: July 01, 2018, 06:18:44 AM »

I've been watching my son play this season and an amazed by the ill temper and the general nastiness that some of the games have been played in.
little incident yesterday with one of our players.Umpires decision not out,no edge.(proper ACO  umpire)
The kid cops a ton of abuse about not walking and is sledged for the rest of his innings.
Seems to be a win at all costs attitude this year even in the village levels of the league.
The rest of our batters copped abuse after that as well
And we wonder why kids don't play.
Shall I stay at home and (no swearing please) my girlfriend  or get grief on a cricket field all day.
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JB

Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2018, 07:18:43 AM »

Disgusting, we played against two under 13s lads yesterday. For one of them his first adult game. We as a fielding side encouraged them, clapped when they scored and all gave them a pat on the back and well batted when they were dismissed. First impressions are important, we need to keep the young lads interested in the game. You wouldnt get away with abusing or bullying kids on any other platform, I certainly wouldnt let it happen on a cricket field.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2018, 07:58:06 AM »

Last tuesday we had a practice t20 match and we had an 11 year old offie in our xi. The kid frustrated the hell out of the opposition and took 2 wickets for 14-15 odd in his 3 overs and had a couple of catches dropped. The entire opposition team gave him a standing ovation after the match and we lifted him on our shoulders and cheered him. Its a gentlemens game. Lets keep it that way
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2018, 08:00:12 AM »

it's got worse in the last few years.when I used to play in the lower leagues it was all pretty friendly,enjoy the game win or lose.
As cricket loses the casual player its left with the really "keen" player/s who turn a team from a nice bunch of lads to something else.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2018, 08:13:59 AM »

I play in a pretty high standard and competitive competition and the worst behaviour and most disgusting comments, 90% percent of the time come from the 30-40 year old guys who, go figure would have kids going through juniors now. Monkey see monkey do.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2018, 08:35:24 AM »

Is. It not surprising when you hear coaches telling 12 year olds get in the opposition faces do what it takes to intimidate  heard a coach say last season to a 15 year old stop him scoring bowl every ball short and at his body.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2018, 08:55:22 AM »

Its the way the game hasnt gone. Just look at how seriously teams take it with all the gear, paid players, poaching etc. Add to that the general population is more hostile than ever the friendly game is dying.

Youth cricket is bad for it with angry parents and coaches just wanting to destroy oppos etc etc. Sadly it is what it is now and u less the umpires (yes, it has to be them as clubs/capts dont care) stamp on all verbals it simply will continue to get worse.

WEPL sent an open letter last week about the rise in reported behaviour (saldy not from umpires but people emailing them directly to complain as umpires dont want the hassle).. when challenged they claim its down to clubs and capts but we all know teams and capts who simply allow it or actively allow it

I genuinely dont think it can or will be stopped so its a case of join in, accept it but dont join in the verbals or walk away now..

It does however make me smile when people sledge about pressure.. try going to a war zone fella.. thats pressure.. not some random meaningless cricket game. Clown 🤡  this is a pastime.. fun.. but ultimately meaningless
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2018, 09:23:08 AM »

Abusing or questioning umpires has got worse from  what Ive seen this year, seems to mainly be teams he dont have an umpire. That and a football mentality has crept into cricket, Kent fans booing SNE yesterday is a prime example
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2018, 09:34:54 AM »

"Reflects the society we live in" etc.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2018, 09:53:28 AM »

It reflects the actions in cricket at elite levels. Players no longer walk, generally. As a kid I was told to respect the game and the spirit of cricket. Young players see cricketers standing their ground, getting in fights, ball tampering, sledging and they copy. Everything drips down.

Couplemof years ago I heard a kid saying he won a penalty playing football by diving. His dad couldn't be prouder! The kid was nine...
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2018, 10:02:11 AM »

I played a T20 a few months ago and there was a kid of 16 years of age. We engaged in a bit of freindly banter when i was batting but when dismissed, he gave me a send off. I stopped and told him that the banter was fine but to drop the send offs from his game, he didnt ned them, and walked off. His father then got stuck into me from the sidelines. I thought this poor kid doesnt stand achance in life with that sort of example being set for him at home.
The kid apologised when we shook hands at the end of the game and i couldnt be happier!
There is hope out there!
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2018, 10:44:49 AM »

An open letter to the Southern League was published a couple of days ago.
Rule 42 to be introduced from next weekend

http://www.southernpremierleague.co.uk/news?id=136
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2018, 10:48:59 AM »

I find abusing a batsman for not walking to be hypocritical rubbish. Also no need to personally attack youngsters.  Having said that , non personal sledging of youngsters is fine by me. If they are good enough to play with the big boys they are going to need to be exposed to it a bit in order to learn how to play through it. I played my first senior cricket at age 12. I copped plenty and it toughened me up a bit . I matured as a cricketer faster as a result.
People just need to do their 'mental disintergration' in a non personal manner and not go overboard( ie you can have a laugh and complement oppo players too) and it should all be fine.
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2018, 11:30:19 AM »

An open letter to the Southern League was published a couple of days ago.
Rule 42 to be introduced from next weekend

http://www.southernpremierleague.co.uk/news?id=136


This is a good step, I wish Middlesex did this.doubling of bans is the first step in the right direction and the only one that would work.

Personally I'm in favour of tripling or quadrupling bans for bad behaviour on field.and yes , that would mean in the worst case a player reported would miss half a season.

Drastic measures needed to save the game at club level in my opinion
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Re: And we wonder why kids don't want to play
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2018, 11:48:27 AM »

'Sledging' is ridiculous. End of. Ban it.

And an end, please, to this idea that it is somehow okay not to walk when you know you've hit it. No, it isn't. It's a form of cheating.
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