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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2018, 06:22:31 PM »

The fact is whatever change you make to the game, start times, draw, win lose, length etc.. For every one you bring into or back, you lose another. Sadly its a no win situation .

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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2018, 06:37:39 PM »

Agreed unfortunately. I'd love for the earlier starts to become permanent but other issues then arise such as Saturday workers...but on the other hand those who want to go out with their mates Sat nights might stay/come back to the game.
Are there that many blokes who work Sat morning every week though? Trouble is there'll always be clubs who have a few players who do, and they'll obviously be very vocal against any change. I think the sport would see a lot fewer people drop out of it at the social level if games were done by mid afternoon though, surely a bigger gain than the loss from guys who work Sat morning. I work Sat mornings at times and I'd still be in favour I reckon.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2018, 07:01:22 PM »

Are there that many blokes who work Sat morning every week though? Trouble is there'll always be clubs who have a few players who do, and they'll obviously be very vocal against any change. I think the sport would see a lot fewer people drop out of it at the social level if games were done by mid afternoon though, surely a bigger gain than the loss from guys who work Sat morning. I work Sat mornings at times and I'd still be in favour I reckon.

I work some Saturday mornings - but would still support earlier starts.  I could work around it, and figure in general that they would keep youngsters - who matter more than a fading fast 41 year old - in the game.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2018, 07:13:52 PM »

Earlier start times would be an issue for seniors who work on Saturday mornings and juniors during the first part of the season who have school fixtures in the morning but I find far more people who can't travel to away games at the other end of the county because of the time we would get back not allowing them to get to work in the evening or social arrangements.  Getting back after 9 in the evening from an away game seems a big barrier to many playing
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2018, 08:35:41 PM »

Are there that many blokes who work Sat morning every week though? Trouble is there'll always be clubs who have a few players who do, and they'll obviously be very vocal against any change. I think the sport would see a lot fewer people drop out of it at the social level if games were done by mid afternoon though, surely a bigger gain than the loss from guys who work Sat morning. I work Sat mornings at times and I'd still be in favour I reckon.

I know at least 2 of our 1st team regularly work Saturday mornings and a few of our 2s do which was why we turned down an earlier start on Saturday.

I agree with you that overall there would be fewer drop outs from earlier starts than the current situation, and to be honest certainly our first team guys could probably change their shifts around - not sure about the guys in the 2s as I haven't been around anywhere near as much as usual this season. No one likes a late finish followed by a good hour plus drive home and eventually getting in somewhere between 9 and 10pm.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2018, 08:42:09 AM »

The bit I don't understand is how when guys for whatever reason decide Saturday league cricket is no longer their thing, because the long days are too much commitment or whatever, they give up cricket altogether, rather than switching to a different format like midweek T20 games.

or IS this what people do, and if so, is the problem actually that the clubs aren't providing the right formats of cricket that their members want to play?
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2018, 08:53:17 AM »

Seen a lot of people ask for earlier start times in this, I think one issue raised is likely that some teams where games last 6-8 hours might have to provide a lunch and tea which would mean for most clubs match fees would go up. If you could somehow start earlier at say 11 and have lunch halfway through the first innings it would be good however could be irritating for either side if they are picking up momentum for them to then have to stop.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2018, 09:54:34 AM »

Seen a lot of people ask for earlier start times in this, I think one issue raised is likely that some teams where games last 6-8 hours might have to provide a lunch and tea which would mean for most clubs match fees would go up. If you could somehow start earlier at say 11 and have lunch halfway through the first innings it would be good however could be irritating for either side if they are picking up momentum for them to then have to stop.

Nah - just have "lunch" in the middle.  Lets face it, none of us would choose to eat at 1600 in any other set of circumstances...
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2018, 11:34:28 AM »

Nah - just have "lunch" in the middle.  Lets face it, none of us would choose to eat at 1600 in any other set of circumstances...

To be perfectly honest, I find the idea of having a sit-down meal half way through a cricket match to be ridiculous anyway. I never eat anything at tea because I'm either about to go out and field or go out and bat. Its just bad timing. It would make much more sense to simply provide some food at the start of each innings for the batting side to graze on, at a time that works for them.

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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2018, 11:46:51 AM »

Nah - just have "lunch" in the middle.  Lets face it, none of us would choose to eat at 1600 in any other set of circumstances...

Completely right, but when ive played at a higher level its always been lunch and tea with smaller meals.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2018, 11:55:22 AM »

To be perfectly honest, I find the idea of having a sit-down meal half way through a cricket match to be ridiculous anyway. I never eat anything at tea because I'm either about to go out and field or go out and bat. Its just bad timing. It would make much more sense to simply provide some food at the start of each innings for the batting side to graze on, at a time that works for them.

This is actually not a bad idea.
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »

It sort of seems like it would be a good idea for teams/leagues to offer more variety in terms of start times and game lengths in general though on reading this thread.  As a young parent I can play some weekends and some midweek games, but would/could be involved every week at the weekend if the games were T20 on a weekend morning - thus enabling me to actually spend time with my family (as like most I'm at work through the week).
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2018, 03:19:06 PM »

To be perfectly honest, I find the idea of having a sit-down meal half way through a cricket match to be ridiculous anyway. I never eat anything at tea because I'm either about to go out and field or go out and bat. Its just bad timing. It would make much more sense to simply provide some food at the start of each innings for the batting side to graze on, at a time that works for them.

Having a sit down meal half way through the game is something else which elongates the day further which makes committing to regular league cricket a challenge for some people.  My league has a 30-minute break for tea but if we are back playing within 45 minutes of the close of the first innings, then it is a rarity.  A 10 minute turn around between innings would shave a good 30 minutes off the time the game takes to play
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2018, 06:42:01 AM »

It sort of seems like it would be a good idea for teams/leagues to offer more variety in terms of start times and game lengths in general though on reading this thread.  As a young parent I can play some weekends and some midweek games, but would/could be involved every week at the weekend if the games were T20 on a weekend morning - thus enabling me to actually spend time with my family (as like most I'm at work through the week).

Again, for every player attracted by shorter formats youll lose another so overall it wont help participation unless you happen to be one Of the ones who wants it. The format isnt the issue otherwise Cricket would have died along time ago, its simply less people are seeing the game, playing the game and there are more things to do at a weekend now. Literally times and formats wont make a jot of difference overall
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Re: Games interrupted by the World Cup
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2018, 08:38:00 PM »

As someone who works saturday mornings every week... an early start does not work for me!
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